KhaleesiDany Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 alive, possibly warging. possibly the night king. will be talking and walking around again by the end of the next book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winds of Winter blow cold Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Do we have a tally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I do not sew Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Yeah I thought the prologue kinda took all guesswork out of it. At this point I'm more interested how his chapter titles will read. He's one of the few characters who's always retained his name for the heading. I'm really looking forward to the Jon/Ghost duality of his coming chapters."The Ghost in the Darkness"Ok that's lame and almost a Michael Douglas movie but it's appropriate. I'll think up some shit later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear Island Bruiser Posted December 14, 2012 Author Share Posted December 14, 2012 Do we have a tally?I've done a quick tally and, possibly including people that voted twice as I didn't check, we have 21 for dead and 64 for alive. Fairly comprehensive then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingelheim Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 If he is dead I'll be so dissapointed. He is one of the main characters; only Tyrion has more POV'S than him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear Island Bruiser Posted December 14, 2012 Author Share Posted December 14, 2012 Well, like a lot of people on here, even though I think he's dead in body his character isn't going to be dropped. Wargged into Ghost or resurrected or both he's coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olavtheking Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 He cannot be dead- His arc is far from finished, still don't know who is mother is (even though some people seem to be a bit too sure)- Mellisandre the most talented Red priest that we know is near him and already expected it to happen and we know by now that red priests can bring people back from dead.So I say 100% not dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olavtheking Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Make that 99%, never know with GRRM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mist Isle Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I've done a quick tally and, possibly including people that voted twice as I didn't check, we have 21 for dead and 64 for alive. Fairly comprehensive then.I voted for his body being dead (but he probably either warged or will be resurrected), however if this counts in the alive category then I would change my vote to alive (if it does not, then I would keep vote as dead). He is almost certainly not permanently gone, but it seems more likely than not that his body has died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Arya Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Alive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juli Greyjoy Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Alive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Green Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 If he's dead its figuratively for whatever reason (as in he becomes King in the North - so the NW's man dies, or finds out he's legally not a bastard anymore, or the man rises and the boy dies, a lot of people seem to like that saying in the book)So I'm going with alive, it didn't say anywhere in aDwD the sentance 'Jon is dead' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heir to His House Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Jon's alive. Why? Because every time GRRM kills off a major character, it is obvious and usually a clear narrative of a book.Ned, Joffrey, Robb, Cat, Lysa, Big King Bob, Renly, Quentyn, Tywin, Viserys, etc.....Then compare all the end of book dead/alive cliffhangers we've seen:Arya (AGOT): AliveDavos (ACOK): AliveTheon (ACOK): AliveIf Jon Snow was dead after five books where he was a major POV character, then his fate wouldn't have been left hanging.Maybe he 'dies' and comes back to life or something, but I don't see unJon or anything like that happening. Mostly likely he's attacked by the NW, saved by wildlings and wakes up changed.Just like Jaime is going to have a couple chapters, at least, in TWOW. He's also hanging off the cliff right now but I don't think he's figurately hanging from a tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerBrightflame Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Dead. Thank the seven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreyKraken Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Hopefully alive :'( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Titan's Legitimate Son Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Technically he is dead, but will not be so for very long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoicesInTheTrees Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Didn't Melisandre say he will be a man, then a wolf, then a man?I hope someone can answer the bolded question for certain.Found it in AWDW, Melisandre 1, pg 408:"His long face floated before her, limned in tongues of red and orange, appearing and disappearing again, a shadow half-seen behind a fluttering curtain. Now he was a man, now a wolf, now a man again." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictarion Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Alive Mel will save him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melpomene Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 I'm actually still pretty uncertain. There is a lot of arguments and future possibilites that are all up in the air. Jon's outcome might be even something that hasn't been thought up yet. But, if I absolutely have to choose, I'll lean more towards the alive category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiet Isle Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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