Dr. Pepper Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 <snipity snip>Yes. This is a good rational and reasonable hypothesis on what Davos will do if Stannis dies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewingedwolf Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Yes. This is a good rational and reasonable hypothesis on what Davos will do if Stannis dies.I am not saying he will actively pursue it. I am saying it might happen. One thing about Davos is he is not the most proactive in seeking advancement. Things just sort of happen to him as a result of his actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkAndFullOfTurnips Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 The problem is, if Stannis dies, how many of those loyalists are still left to really turn the tide and win Rickon back Winterfell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewingedwolf Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 I just want to be clear. My comment is not an attack on Stannis at all. It is simply an assessment of the situation, for example, I do not doubt that Davos will be very mournful of Stannis and justifiably so. I am merely stating that the King's death would make Davos the top person responisble for bringing a Stark back to Winterfell and that he stands to reap some serious rewards from that. The Dreadfort was an example of that. I just want to be clear so my comments are not misinterpreted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewingedwolf Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 The problem is, if Stannis dies, how many of those loyalists are still left to really turn the tide and win Rickon back Winterfell?Manderly doesn't give a damn about Stannis, he will turn when a Stark returns. Same goes for a few other northern houses who are with Bolton now, I believe. Moreover, if Rickon lands with a few thousand battle hardened Skagosi's that alone may be enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkAndFullOfTurnips Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Manderly doesn't give a damn about Stannis, he will turn when a Stark returns. Same goes for a few other northern houses who are with Bolton now, I believe. Moreover, if Rickon lands with a few thousand battle hardened Skagosi's that alone may be enough.Perhaps. I merely meant that Stannis' death could and most likely would be a result in grevious losses to his supporters, Manderly included. I think it's still, however, what Davos would do if Stannis were dead so on that I agree wholeheartedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewingedwolf Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Perhaps. I merely meant that Stannis' death could and most likely would be a result in grevious losses to his supporters, Manderly included. I think it's still, however, what Davos would do if Stannis were dead so on that I agree wholeheartedly.I think Davos will mourn his king dutyfully and rightfully but let's face it he won't get any favors from Selyse or the Queen's men whereas he will have the gratitude of the North. Davos Seaworth, Lord of the Dreadfort . . . Sounds pretty nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Broke Howard Hughes Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 He'll find a worthy king and serve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Pepper Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 I am not saying he will actively pursue it. I am saying it might happen. One thing about Davos is he is not the most proactive in seeking advancement. Things just sort of happen to him as a result of his actions.I just want to be clear. My comment is not an attack on Stannis at all.Oh no, I definitely did not see it as an attack on Stannis or Davos. I didn't see it as an attack at all, but a rational and reasonable post about Davos. I just have an annoyance of irrational fan love/hatred that leads to ridiculous conclusions, whitewashing or blackwashing of characters. I prefer more honesty in discussions. Your posts was a good one! No sarcasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewingedwolf Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Oh no, I definitely did not see it as an attack on Stannis or Davos. I didn't see it as an attack at all, but a rational and reasonable post about Davos. I just have an annoyance of irrational fan love/hatred that leads to ridiculous conclusions, whitewashing or blackwashing of characters. I prefer more honesty in discussions. Your posts was a good one! No sarcasm.I will blame that rational assessment on how unusually sober I am for this time of the night ;). Jokes aside, thank you, its appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkAndFullOfTurnips Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 I think Davos will mourn his king dutyfully and rightfully but let's face it he won't get any favors from Selyse or the Queen's men whereas he will have the gratitude of the North. Davos Seaworth, Lord of the Dreadfort . . . Sounds pretty nice.Raise those onion banners high! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitedog42 Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 GRRM could do so much with Davos and Tyrion as the greatest team of advisors a king or queen could want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaTyAdo Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 It seems likely that stannis will die before the end of the series. NO!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winds of Winter blow cold Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 After Shireen dies of the the Greyscale I see him supporting Jon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Wolf Smith Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 I don't believe Stannis will die. I am pretty much sold with the idea, that he is about the only one in the whole series (other then Jon) that is safe.Now what will Davos do when Stannis reforms the NW? Go back to his wife, and try to make a few more sons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of Hats Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 I think he will just go home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion of Judah Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 If Stannis dies Davos will serve his daughter Shireen, I don't think he can serve anyone else. Never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Look out for Shireen, of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukle Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Davos is a man of honour who would smuggle Stannis' family to safety, and they'd be in danger if Stannis died.I think Stannis will die. The other five kings have died, but each in a way that has tarnished their cause due to selfishness.Balon: died after selfishly invading a nation he knew couldn't fight back.Renly: died after selfishly claiming a crown and refusing to parley with the rightful heir to it.Robb: died after selfishly marrying a woman when he was sworn to marry another.Joffrey: died after selfishly claiming credit for defending a city when he actually hid from the danger.Stannis is the only one of the five kings who eventually decided he must act Kingly and for the Realm. I can see him dying as a hero against the Others, and it would make him the greatest of the Five Kings for doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalalOfDorne Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Thats a scary thought. He will probably coninue supporting Shireen and they will have a JonCon-Aegon relationship. He might start feeling guilty and start thinking that he might be the reason Stannis died, so ge wont let down Shireen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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