Logodnica Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 So we won't see Coldhands until next season. I'm strangely ok with that. I assume they'll develop him on the journey with Bran. Maybe have him meet Bran S4E5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Coldhands is neat, but... are we sure we're going to see him? I don't know, if you consider his actual role, it can easily be replaced by Jojen just knowing exactly where they need to go, and Samwell just happening to come across them.I think they'll keep Coldhands if his actual identity matters. Like, if he's Benjen (I don't think he is, but just saying), I could see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexislalas Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Yes, just pointed that in another thread, I think they can spare Coldhands and let Jojen or even Bran lead to where the three eye raven is.@Ran: Nice theory that Coldhands could be Benjen. I really like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zman1863 Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 It's still pretty open. They'll have to explain how Sam gets by the wall in order to demonstrate how Bran and Co. get through, provided they do have them intersect. They still had the flock of ravens, and its hard to see the point of including it unless it had some sort of meaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastard Walder Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Yes, just pointed that in another thread, I think they can spare Coldhands and let Jojen or even Bran lead to where the three eye raven is.@Ran: Nice theory that Coldhands could be Benjen. I really like it.I'm pretty sure the thousand crows meant Coldhands would be coming.And if we met Coldhands this episode, that would mean Bran would go through the Wall during the finale, which would be his last ASOS chapter. If we meet Coldhands during the finale or the first or second episode next season Bran could go through the gate during the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baxter Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I don't quite recall the book, but what of this episode guaranteed no Coldhands? Sam slays the walker in the book so I saw nothing there that says he can't meet up with him. I thought we didn't meet Coldhands until Bran is in the castle and Sam sneaks in the secret entrance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montey14 Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Isn't coldhands the only person or being that knows about the gate that needs to be passed to get to the crow..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montey14 Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I don't quite recall the book, but what of this episode guaranteed no Coldhands? Sam slays the walker in the book so I saw nothing there that says he can't meet up with him. I thought we didn't meet Coldhands until Bran is in the castle and Sam sneaks in the secret entrance...true he has to fight another wight and is about to get killed......this time coldhands and the crows kill it .....thats when we meet him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtones520 Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I'm pretty sure the thousand crows meant Coldhands would be coming.And if we met Coldhands this episode, that would mean Bran would go through the Wall during the finale, which would be his last ASOS chapter. If we meet Coldhands during the finale or the first or second episode next season Bran could go through the gate during the end of the season.Bran is going to have a lot of added material, as we are likely not going to get to the end of aDWD until season Six. So, I imagine we are going to get a lot of backstory and history through Jojen helping Bran understand his green dreams. That's my theory at least. I don't see any other way of them introducing that stuff, which they have acknowledged is important to the story, they just have to present it at the right time so viewers don't get lost along the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtones520 Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Plus, I think that the inclusion of the Ravens and them following Sam and Gilly will lead us to Coldhands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Fox Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Man, I really hope we get to see Coldhands, and I also hope he turns out to be Benjen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymore Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I think we'll probably see him in one of the earlier scenes of the finale. Hope we get to see the scene where they are attacked by the wights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garlan Marius Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Ravens on the weirwood? I sense a warged wight in our future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logodnica Posted May 20, 2013 Author Share Posted May 20, 2013 Coldhands is neat, but... are we sure we're going to see him? I don't know, if you consider his actual role, it can easily be replaced by Jojen just knowing exactly where they need to go, and Samwell just happening to come across them.I think they'll keep Coldhands if his actual identity matters. Like, if he's Benjen (I don't think he is, but just saying), I could see that.Ahh... good point. If he's not an important character reveal we can have Jojen do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kephv Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 They could easily skip him entirely and give whatever magical role to Jojen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logodnica Posted May 20, 2013 Author Share Posted May 20, 2013 Ravens on the weirwood? I sense a warged wight in our future.I sense Bloodraven sending them to warn Sam and Gilly. It would be VERY cool if they reveal that he was watching them and watching out for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocketshoes Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Coldhands is neat, but... are we sure we're going to see him? I don't know, if you consider his actual role, it can easily be replaced by Jojen just knowing exactly where they need to go, and Samwell just happening to come across them.I think they'll keep Coldhands if his actual identity matters. Like, if he's Benjen (I don't think he is, but just saying), I could see that.I find that so disappointing.. They're getting rid of an interesting character that adds a sense of intrigue into the magic beyond the wall in favour of giving a few actors some more lines.You never see his face, so he could really just be played by anybody.. I guess they feel like they can give a greater sense of purpose to the Reed's helping them journey beyond the wall if they remove Coldhands. They'll probably have a 'green dream' about the secret entrance, etc(blah).They're just slowly eliminating any wonder from the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Hornwood Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Isn't coldhands the only person or being that knows about the gate that needs to be passed to get to the crow.....They could easily have Sam just know it from a book.My idea is that the ravens are going to lead Sam an Gilly to the gate and then Bran and the others to Bloodraven. Just to have more of the word "raven" repeated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Smith Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I doubt they'll skip Coldhands, but I don't mind holding his introduction off till S4, particularly if it serves to flesh out Bran's storyline. Skipping him entirely would be a mistake, because Bran's journey north then loses credibility (they never would have survived without Coldhands). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Forel's Fro Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I thought coldhands was the "old man" they meet was that just referring to the tree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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