Xray the Enforcer Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Are we the crime-ridden pesthole or the terrifying dictatorship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xray the Enforcer Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Trick question: the answer is "yes."(if you're to believe some of the conspiracy theorists -- who are suspiciously obsessed with racial purity -- we have kicking around the country.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Iceman of the North Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Brazil seemed ideal on paper, but it looks like a very different prospect to travel with my family compared to a bunch of guys.I believe you're probably exaggerating the risk in Brazil, it's not nearly as bad as South Africa, and that turned out quite well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex. Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Trick question: the answer is "yes."(if you're to believe some of the conspiracy theorists -- who are suspiciously obsessed with racial purity -- we have kicking around the country.)I was kind of alluding to a lot of the "This country is going to shit" type posts you might see in the US Politics threads. They are funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xray the Enforcer Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Talking about the rubes in the US Politics thread outside of GC is kind of like pulling your cock out during dinner -- socially unacceptable unless your name is Zakalwe7. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex. Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Haha, my apologies. When I'm feeling particularly down I like to look in there to remind myself that things could be so much worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baxus Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 :rolleyes: Because they turned out to be such horrible hosts...what makes you think brazil won't be too?on paper, they are in no worse position then south africa was a year before the tournament they hosted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xray the Enforcer Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Haha, my apologies. When I'm feeling particularly down I like to look in there to remind myself that things could be so much worse.:lol: You and me both. It's very unlikely that I'll make it to Brazil in 2014 (going to England that August, and a potential trip to Aus-NZ for the cricket WC in early 2015), and I'm not at all interested in going to Qatar. Russia is a possibility, though.Who is the front-runner for the 2026 bid? Anyone have a clue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Moff Mithrandir Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 in all honesty, they opened that can of worms when they awarded world cup to south africa. hey now, vuvuzela's aside, south africa was actually a really good host nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcibiades Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 haha, I'm annoyed by the Vuvuzelas, but It makes me laugh that every league has to have a "vuvuzela policy" now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baxus Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 hey now, vuvuzela's aside, south africa was actually a really good host nation.they were a good host nation, but they have high crime rates the same as brazil.here's what google came up with for mehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate#By_countryfor example, republic of south africa has 50% higher murder rate than brazil and i don't remember anyone getting in a fuss abuot that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 for example, republic of south africa has 50% higher murder rate than brazil and i don't remember anyone getting in a fuss abuot that.You don't?http://www.eturbonew...-world-cup-fanshttp://www.csmonitor...Cup-safe-so-farhttp://edition.cnn.c...ca.survey.2010/I recall numerous discussions about it at the time.ETA - including on this very board... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tormund Ukrainesbane Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 If Qatar ends up not being able to host (which is possible, all of the glorious amazing air-conditioned stadiums they promised FIFA they would build are starting to look like a pipe dream), then the US, UK, and Germany are FIFA's automatic back-plans as nations that would be able to host on short notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljkeane Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 I doubt they're actually going to take it off Qatar and admit they made mistake, they'll probably just go through with it being rubbish. Even if they did take it off Qatar I'm not sure the US, UK or Germany would be top of the list as replacements, the US and Germany are really too close to their last World Cups to have another and the FA isn't exactly popular with FIFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tormund Ukrainesbane Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 I doubt they're actually going to take it off Qatar and admit they made mistake, they'll probably just go through with it being rubbish. Even if they did take it off Qatar I'm not sure the US, UK or Germany would be top of the list as replacements, the US and Germany are really too close to their last World Cups to have another and the FA isn't exactly popular with FIFA.Given enough time I'm sure they'd send it elsewhere. US, UK, and Germany are actually FIFA's official backups in case of an emergency change of venue.But you're right, they'll probably just let it be shit instead of moving it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljkeane Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Given enough time I'm sure they'd send it elsewhere. US, UK, and Germany are actually FIFA's official backups in case of an emergency change of venue.Ah, fair enough. What constitutes an 'emergency' change of venue though? If you're talking a few months the number of countries that could do it would probably be a fairly short list. Given a bit more time, while you wouldn't have all the flash new stadia which usually comes with a World Cup, the list would probably be a bit longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex. Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 I think emergency constitutes stuff like stadium not being built, mass populist uprising (Brazil 2014!!), natural disaster, the host country refusing to exempt Fifa from the rule of law etc.Tormund is right on this though, the list of country's that could host perhaps the biggest international event in the world at a couple of months notice is basically the UK, USA and Germany. Add Japan/Korea and France to that list maybe. I would say Russia, but let's see how their effort goes first... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljkeane Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Add Japan/Korea and France to that list maybe. I would say Russia, but let's see how their effort goes first...Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Maybe Spain and Italy as well. I think it'd be more the capacity of the transport network being up to it on short notice rather than just having the required big stadiums to actually host the tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex. Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 The transport is the biggest issue, along with hotels etc.Spain - They have enough trouble organising their fixture list every season, let alone a world cup in a month. Add in the shambolic state of their finance and I'm not sure its a goer... Italy - not really convinced they could do it at short notice. They've got the stadiums and the football culture. They also have some pretty intense racism issues eh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baxus Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 You don't?i guess this is another example of short memory ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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