Cold Hands Luke Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 I have read Dr Pepper's post ab aeterno. That may in fact prove to be a stupid decision, not yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter's Knight Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Dear God people, the man thought Asha was trying to seduce him in Feast! (Or is that an Ironborn thing?)I think Vic catches a lot of flake for being stupid because he's also...bad. As a person I mean-he's unsympathetic, misogynistic, arrogant and harsh. So whereas Dunk-who isn't exactly the brightest bulb in the chandelier-or Brienne don't excite as much mirth, it's because they are nice, good people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 I wonderer if Halsey, Nimitz, Yamamoto, Drake, etc. were stupid? Or maybe it takes some intelligence to command several thousand men, ensure their supply, and wage war, all at sea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 He's not very bright, in general, but few Ironborn are. However, he's a competent sailor, to get most of his fleet halfway round the World.And, Dany will have the hots for him, when they meet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs.Grumpy Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 He's stupid, sexist, homophobic and cruel. Alsa a zealot.I hate him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonstar Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 His inner dialog cracks me up, together with Cersei's. They have such terrible, ludicrous plans but the whole time they think - I have a cunning plan. Like Baldrick from Blackadder. But they have no idea how laughably awful their ideas are. I find it adorbs."I've got a plan so cunning you could stick a tail on it and call it weasel!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Jon Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 He is as dumb as a stump, albeit an awesome ass-kicking pirate stump, but still a stump. My favourite stump! :bowdown: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tolsimir Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Hes really dumb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittykatknits Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Dear God people, the man thought Asha was trying to seduce him in Feast! (Or is that an Ironborn thing?)I think Vic catches a lot of flake for being stupid because he's also...bad. As a person I mean-he's unsympathetic, misogynistic, arrogant and harsh. So whereas Dunk-who isn't exactly the brightest bulb in the chandelier-or Brienne don't excite as much mirth, it's because they are nice, good people.Yeah, I think it's this. Vic's strategy to get Dany: Me Vic. Vic Smash. Vic take wife. Grr... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mother of The Others Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 But does it hurt him, the dumbness? That guy whose ship he invaded and killed during the "Meet Victarion" fight at sea seemed like a pretty smart guy. That smart guy got kilt by the dumb guy. Maybe you don't have to be a genius to win. Maybe the genius type guys just want everyone to believe that, so nobody challenges them except other eggheads who play by the same rules. Whereas Vic just bangs these eggheads and prooves he's more effective just by smashing them up. Isn't that what you'd want? Isn't that the mercenary outfit you'd want to hire---the effective one? He's good stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMysteriousOne Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Vic's strategy to get Dany: Me Vic. Vic Smash. Vic take wife. Grr...Basically this sums up Vic's thought process in any endeavor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franko99 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Yeah, I think it's this.Vic's strategy to get Dany: Me Vic. Vic Smash. Vic take wife. Grr... :rofl: :lmao: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light a wight tonight Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 All the reasons given here for Vic being stupid is because GRRM says so or this character says so. There is no evidence he is. In fact, I would say so far he has made some pretty good decisions. I love Vic's chapters, He reminds me of a character in Brian Lumley's old series, "Necroscope", a character named Thibor who said, "Only two things I believe in, blood and steel. The first to wield the second and the second to spill the first." I digress, I'm not saying he is a genius but he has proven himself competent in leading and of course battle which is pretty much all the iron born are about. Love me some Vic and all Greyjoy chapters for that matter, dont understand why so many people on this forum dont like them.Maybe it's because some people look at the Ironborn and see buffoons and cartoons. Cardboard cutouts of Vikings. Even the motto "We do not sow" translates as "we don't perform any useful work; we just go out and steal from those who do". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Fox Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 He's the ASOIAF version of Titus Pullo. He has the mental capacity to think a little deeper, but his emotions, rough upbringing as an Ironbor,n and lack of education overtake that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittykatknits Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Maybe it's because some people look at the Ironborn and see buffoons and cartoons. Cardboard cutouts of Vikings. Even the motto "We do not sow" translates as "we don't perform any useful work; we just go out and steal from those who do".There are some great characters within the Ironborn. The Reader is great and I like Asha. Damphair is a religious fanatic but a fully fleshed out character. It's the overall culture that troubles me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frey Pie Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Yeah, I think it's this.Vic's strategy to get Dany: Me Vic. Vic Smash. Vic take wife. Grr...Ha which oddly enough i could see Dany going for, especially if he furnishes a few axe handles with naked women Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittykatknits Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Ha which oddly enough i could see Dany going for, especially if he furnishes a few axe handles with naked womenHave you ever seen those mud flaps on the back of semi trucks with naked women on them? Daario's swords always make me think of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyful Union Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Honestly, the only other character I can think of who comes close to being as stupid is Robert, but at least Robert could recognize when he was being mocked. I'd say everyone is reasonably harsh on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 He's the ASOIAF version of Titus Pullo. He has the mental capacity to think a little deeper, but his emotions, rough upbringing as an Ironbor,n and lack of education overtake that.That was an awesome series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Fox Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 It was. It died too soon :bawl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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