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I don't get the second part of your paragraph, elaborate.

What I am saying is that the terms that you use, and the complaints you are focusing upon wrt the "problems with dating" are very loaded, and consistent with a particular subset of people that practically anyone outside of that subset thinks are vile and repugnant. That subset self-identifies as "PUGs", or "Pick-up guys" (sometimes Pick-up gurus") who are characterized primarily by an extreme misogyny that results in their inability to value a woman as anything other than a sex object, and tend to value sex itself that is empty and emotionless, little more than the use of a woman's vagina as a tool with which to masturbate. They are also characterized by their disdain for anyone that doesn't share their misogyny, for anyone that values quality of sex and quality of partners over pure quantity. They often specialize in a form of seduction that is barely once-removed (if that) from direct emotional abuse, and, finding that an insulting, derogatory attitude toward women will make a subset of them want them more, choose only to pursue that subset, and refer to all other subsets in the most vile, derogatory, and misogynistic language possible.

Possibly because I've had so much of it, including porn star quality, I might have become desensitized. Which I think is a good thing, I don't like to be controlled by my penis.

Fascinating choice of words. "Porn star quality" would mean, to most, sex that is empty, mechanical, devoid of emotion, mercenary, and joyless.

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Should you be publishing private email exchanges between you and Kolantero like this?

LOL.

1. I occasionally bring people off pedestals, though I don't discriminate between genders. If they deserve it, they deserve it. Not sure if that's what you are asking though. If you are asking about situations where I'd like to sleep with a woman, I'd typically use my good looks and white boy swagger to win her over rather than some psychological tricks. There are very few better men than me in the city I live, so it's not too difficult.

2. Not at all. What gave you this idea? I actually don't care about sex very much (which is ironic considering my polyamorous lifestyle). Sex is more of a byproduct of pleasant interaction to me personally. Possibly because I've had so much of it, including porn star quality, I might have become desensitized. Which I think is a good thing, I don't like to be controlled by my penis.

HAHHAHA - oh you, funny joke-- :lmao:

Oh...this is a *serious* comment? Right...well then... :leaving:

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Controversial descriptions are fun, aren't they?

But I really meant very varied sex life that vast majority of adults won't ever experience and only fantasize about.

Fascinating choice of words. "Porn star quality" would mean, to most, sex that is empty, mechanical, devoid of emotion, mercenary, and joyless.

This is silly. I think it's the typical sex normal couples have that fits your description.

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Controversial descriptions are fun, aren't they?

But I really meant very varied sex life that vast majority of adults won't ever experience and only fantasize about.

This is silly. I think it's the typical sex normal couples have that fits your description.

Hm, disappointing, you skipped over the most important part of your post!What is this "white boy swagger"? That's the interesting question :cool4:
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I just want to say, as a woman, that I reeeeally hate the "alpha male" and "beta male" distinction. That has always just sounded like the kind of stuff the PUA community and frat boys would come out with. Men are people, not alphas and betas. And every man is going to have a different approach to expressing his sexuality. Just because he doesn't swagger up to your table like some dudebro in an Ed Hardy shirt, doesn't mean he isn't awesome in bed and will probably seduce you just by being himself. Ugh.

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I just want to say, as a woman, that I reeeeally hate the "alpha male" and "beta male" distinction. That has always just sounded like the kind of stuff the PUA community and frat boys would come out with. Men are people, not alphas and betas. And every man is going to have a different approach to expressing his sexuality. Just because he doesn't swagger up to your table like some dudebro in an Ed Hardy shirt, doesn't mean he isn't awesome in bed and will probably seduce you just by being himself. Ugh.

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By all means. I just define those by myself. I also consider myself a feminist, so sexist behaviour of beta males really irks me on that level.

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Hm, disappointing, you skipped over the most important part of your post!What is this "white boy swagger"? That's the interesting question :cool4:

If you have time to try and disseminate a piece of conversational verbiage - do you do this in real life too? It's probably from a song. But basically it relates to the fact that vast majority of white men have no swagger (i mean swagger in good way, that appeals to most, not obnoxiousness) whatsoever to them, and to have white boy swagger means to stand out in this way. White men with swagger are extremely rare in my city. Most are the typical shorts/white socks/flip flips/watch hockey/drink beer types. Which is why it's very easy for me to stand out.

But yeah, it's an expression. If you're really interested in in-depth details, you're probably reading into it too much.

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I'm honestly curious about the two bolded parts ->

Please elaborate on the terms "white boy swagger" and "porn star quality sex".

Sci, I was dissatisfied with the precision of the following answer.

<snip> It's probably from a song.

So I found the s

. I have no more questions.
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