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Sweet, sweet irony. Nom, Nom, Nom


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#1 Reek Da Villain

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Posted 05 January 2014 - 06:13 PM

What are the most ironic moments? There are several.

The most ironic moment, IMO, is Viserys being crowned over Rhaenys only to have a similar fate happen to his daughter Rhaenyra. But there are others:

- Tywin entertaining the company of a prostitute, Shae.

- Cersei's accusations against Maergary resulting in her imprisonment on similar chargers.

- Jon Snow sending Maester Aemon away from the Wall and Melisandre only for him to die on the journey. (Though Jon did so probably because he thought Maester Aemon deserved a better ending). How good is a death at sea?

#2 Julian Rayne

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Posted 05 January 2014 - 06:17 PM

I hope your princess dies.

#3 The Broke Howard Hughes

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Posted 05 January 2014 - 10:47 PM

Cersei ignoring Ned's advice about leaving and saving herself and her children. Only to stay, seize power so they'd be protected and inadvertantly put them in danger and lose them anyway. Irony at its best.

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Posted 05 January 2014 - 10:53 PM

Ned cutting off the Nightwatchman's head.



#5 Stan the Man Baratheon

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Posted 05 January 2014 - 10:53 PM

Rhaegar's entire life.



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Posted 05 January 2014 - 10:57 PM

What are the most ironic moments? There are several.

The most ironic moment, IMO, is Viserys being crowned over Rhaenys only to have a similar fate happen to his daughter Rhaenyra. But there are others:

- Tywin entertaining the company of a prostitute, Shae.

- Cersei's accusations against Maergary resulting in her imprisonment on similar chargers.

- Jon Snow sending Maester Aemon away from the Wall and Melisandre only for him to die on the journey. (Though Jon did so probably because he thought Maester Aemon deserved a better ending). How good is a death at sea?

Tywin getting caught with a prostitute is the irony. There's a strong probability that he's the Hand of the King who had the tunnel to Chataya's constructed so he could visit undetected.



#7 Ulysses of the Divide

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Posted 05 January 2014 - 10:59 PM

Ned cutting off the Nightwatchman's head.

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#8 Ser Creighton

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Posted 05 January 2014 - 11:00 PM

:tantrum:


ditto
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#9 Ser Humfrey

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Posted 05 January 2014 - 11:08 PM

:tantrum:


Don't get upset that person clearly doesn't know the difference between irony and coincidence.

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Posted 05 January 2014 - 11:15 PM

Ned decapitates a Nightswatch, who TBH didn't deserve it. They think he's lying.  Later he is decapitated himself after being forced to lie.  I'm seeing irony there.



#11 Ser Humfrey

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Posted 05 January 2014 - 11:18 PM

Ned decapitates a Nightswatch, who TBH didn't deserve it. They think he's lying.  Later he is decapitated himself after being forced to lie.  I'm seeing irony there.

He got beheaded for deserting the nights watch however your right they didn't believe his story. So I stand partially corrected. My apologies.

ETA: although that's a grey area of irony I'm not normally a nit-picker so it counts.

Edited by Ser Humfrey, 05 January 2014 - 11:21 PM.


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Posted 05 January 2014 - 11:21 PM

Apology accepted.  I admit it's not the most glaring piece of irony, it was just off the top of my head.



#13 Mark Antony

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Posted 05 January 2014 - 11:28 PM

Jaime saying he'd rather die than be a cripple about Bran in GoT comes to mind

#14 James Kidd

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Posted 06 January 2014 - 02:54 AM

Jorah the slave slaver.

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Posted 06 January 2014 - 03:00 AM

Ned decapitates a Nightswatch, who TBH didn't deserve it. They think he's lying.  Later he is decapitated himself after being forced to lie.  I'm seeing irony there.

 

Gared wasn't decapitated for lying, he was decapitated for desertion. Ned's situation is almost the exact opposite; he stayed in King's Landing until the bitter end attempting to do his duty to the King.



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Posted 06 January 2014 - 03:42 AM

So?  The very first introduction we get of Ned is him decapitating someone who didn't deserve it, thinking he was lying about his reasons for deserting, and he ended up suffering the exact same fate.  It doesn't matter that he had good reasons in his own mind for decapitating him, so did Joffrey have reasons in his for decapitating Ned. 

If Ned had listened and believed that NW at the beginning, then he may have realised there were more important things to do than go off and be King's Hand, he wouldn't have sent Jon to the Wall, and maybe the Starks may not have been so decimated.  Irony all over it.



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Posted 06 January 2014 - 03:46 AM

So?  The very first introduction we get of Ned is him decapitating someone who didn't deserve it, thinking he was lying about his reasons for deserting, and he ended up suffering the exact same fate.  It doesn't matter that he had good reasons in his own mind for decapitating him, so did Joffrey have reasons in his for decapitating Ned. 

If Ned had listened and believed that NW at the beginning, then he may have realised there were more important things to do than go off and be King's Hand, he wouldn't have sent Jon to the Wall, and maybe the Starks may not have been so decimated.  Irony all over it.

 

Honestly you're not being fair to Ned. You have a greater view of the world and story and know the Others are coming back.

 

"The Others are as dead as the children of the forest, gone eight thousand years. Maester Luwin will tell you they never lived at all."

Seems as though an educated man may have possibly told Ned that the Others never existed.


Edited by Strongboar_Crakehall, 06 January 2014 - 03:48 AM.


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Posted 06 January 2014 - 03:49 AM

So?  The very first introduction we get of Ned is him decapitating someone who didn't deserve it, thinking he was lying about his reasons for deserting, and he ended up suffering the exact same fate.  

 

And getting decapitated by his own sword, Ice, the one he used to decapitate the Nights Watchman at the beginning of the story.

 

 

 

Honestly you're not being fair to Ned. You have a greater view of the world and story and know the Others are coming back.

 

Joffrey didn't have the wider world view to understand that it would be politically better to send Ned to the wall instead of executing him.  He thought Ned was a traitor and deserved his decapitation and showed him mercy by not torturing him first. 

 

Both Ned and the deserter had good reason to be allowed to live but their executioners didn't have the necessary information or understanding.  


Edited by Red Raven, 06 January 2014 - 04:01 AM.


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Posted 06 January 2014 - 03:51 AM

Ok I get people don't see the irony there, I just thought it warranted a mention.  



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Posted 06 January 2014 - 03:51 AM

Jon beheading Janos Slynt for treason, the same man who led Ned Stark to his death by beheading for 'treason.'