Mark Antony Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Return of Eli next week. :ack: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alisa Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I hate that chump.I think Richard definitely killed Manny for Angela. His entire storyline in the episode was about Angela being erased from her sons life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord O' Bones Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Possibly stupid question: Who the hell is Billy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alisa Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Possibly stupid question: Who the hell is Billy?I was wondering that too. I even googled him and checked the Boardwalk wiki and I still have no idea :blushing: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin of Ice Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Someone apparently forgot it was Jimmy and put in Billy instead.Something about the way Eli looks in that trailer makes me wonder if he's going to be long for this world, or if he's lost all taste for the game Nucky plays. I'm probably wrong, but Eli looks like a used up washout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7V3N Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Billy is the performer-chick that Nucky is having an affair with. I don't recall her real name, but she told Teddy to call her Billy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin of Ice Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Billy is the performer-chick that Nucky is having an affair with. I don't recall her real name, but she told Teddy to call her Billy.Yeah, that's the new character we just meant. However, I think people were referring to this post from the prior thread: I didn't really consider this, probably because I liked Billy more, but it was pretty clear that Richard loved Angela and she was an innocent victim whereas Billy was in the line of firWhich, like I said, is someone forgetting Jimmy Darmody's name or having a brain fart and putting Billy in its place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7V3N Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Yeah, that's the new character we just meant. However, I think people were referring to this post from the prior thread:Which, like I said, is someone forgetting Jimmy Darmody's name or having a brain fart and putting Billy in its place.Oh, yeah I saw that earlier. I just didn't want to call them out because there was likely to be backlash due to (basically) everyone's love for Jimmy. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alisa Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I don't get why everyone loves Jimmy so much. I liked him but he was far from my favourite character. Give me Richard Harrow over him anyday. I also love Owen for some reason, although that probably has a lot to do with my crush on the actor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7V3N Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Jimmy's complexity surely has something to do with it. We watched Jimmy strive to be his own man, while dealing with all sorts of issues set on him by Nucky, Gillian, and the Commodore.But I agree, I love Richard. By far my favorite, with character-crushes on Eddie Kessler and Owen Sleater. "Well, the chauffeur must wear a cap!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anya, Vengeance Demon Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Re: why Nucky chose Rothstein, I guess I didn't see it in terms of this being a big mystery, necessarily. It's more that I was wondering if it means that Nucky's alliance with Rothstein has gotten deeper in the year-plus since last season's finale, or if that's reading too much into things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Raidne Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Jimmy was a great mystery and an okay character, IMO. The flashbacks were great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red snow Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Ah, it was a brain fart on my part, sorry. Posting too late in the evening and there's a shit load of characters to keep track of. I'll go back and edit it to avoid further confusion. You should see how bad i am at work getting people's names mixed up all the time,EDIT: old thread is locked so can't correct that mistake but for the record I meant"I didn't really consider this, probably because I liked Billy Jimmy more (not so much that i remember his name!), but it was pretty clear that Richard loved Angela and she was an innocent victim whereas Billy Jimmy was in the line of fire"If the season ends up with Billy being killed because she is in the line of fire then think of it as a prophetic typo :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delete this account pls Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Jimmy was a great mystery and an okay character, IMO. The flashbacks were great.And Michael Pitt has a fantastic screen presence, which helped a lot IMO. As one reviewer (I can't remember who offhand) put it, the camera loves him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7V3N Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Jimmy was troubled for reasons that weren't his own. We could blame the bad things on Gillian, the Commodore, and Nucky, while we can highlight his good side (love for Angela and Tommy, compassion towards Richard, respect for vets, attempts to keep the coup political, etc.)The flashback episode really gave us some insight to his reasons for enlisting (which only made him seem more the boy), how Gillian has brainwashed him his whole life (as we see again with Tommy), his boyish love for Angela, his humanizing fear of being a father and husband. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
servethe_Realm Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 so many brains exploded in the first episode! sick! in a good way :) love me some gore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alisa Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Jimmy was troubled for reasons that weren't his own. We could blame the bad things on Gillian, the Commodore, and Nucky, while we can highlight his good side (love for Angela and Tommy, compassion towards Richard, respect for vets, attempts to keep the coup political, etc.)The flashback episode really gave us some insight to his reasons for enlisting (which only made him seem more the boy), how Gillian has brainwashed him his whole life (as we see again with Tommy), his boyish love for Angela, his humanizing fear of being a father and husband.I guess I just can't love him the way some people do. I likeed him, I found him intriuging and I felt sympathy for him but I also found him quite frustrating at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7V3N Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 I guess I just can't love him the way some people do. I likeed him, I found him intriuging and I felt sympathy for him but I also found him quite frustrating at times.Oh, I completely agree. I loved who Jimmy was pre-war. Or at least who we were led to believe he was. After the war he was too conflicted because he was supposed to be dead. He never looked beyond the war, and everything came crashing down upon his return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drawkcabi Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 It took me so long to warm up to Jimmy. For most of season 1 I didn't like him, thought he was being played too wooden. But then as his story unfolded and he had those moments of violence/pain/sorrow and I learned more of the story behind him I just see his whole arc as masterfully done by the writers and especially the actor.And yes I know Jimmy wasn't originally supposed to die so soon but I think his arc ended at the right time even though by that point if I didn't love Jimmy as a character I really, really liked him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazydog7 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 I have say that in terms of an opening this was best so far particularly the scene between Van Allden/Dean O'Banion. I have to say WTF is with the ages of the children we've jumped two years into the future but they look exactly the same? Oh well, secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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