Lord of Rhinos Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 That is helpful. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Killer Snark Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 JonSnow - A growing number of people are admitting what they really think about Moonlight as well. I hate to be too hard on it, though. The film has some merit. Sometimes fragrant puffery can really do a disservice to your appreciation of a film. Meera - The incompetence during the prize giving really angered me. It put both sets of people in a horrible position, and if I'd been a member of either party I'd have been yelling about it on stage. I'm adding Hardcore Henry to my list, because I'd forgotten about it earlier. I'm also adding a surreal Mexican social allegory/ scifi/ arthouse porn pic I've just seen called We Are the Flesh. It's a niche taste, but it's excellent, and should appeal to anyone who likes Lynch's Eraserhead, Jodorowsky and Gaspar Noe. Just bubbling under for me is The Love Witch. It's not among my favourite films of the year, but it's a lot of fun, and I have a soft spot for Anna Biller. I actually own Viva, which was her first and previous film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briantw Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Just watched Nocturnal Animals. I'm not sure I've ever seen a prettier movie with less substance. The ending was just godawful. The film felt like it was building to something and then...nothing happened. And I don't mean nothing like it was just a bad ending. I mean literally nothing happened. The film felt like fucking for two hours, being unable to cum, and then just deciding to go to sleep. The best parts of the film were the parts adapting the novel that Amy Adams' ex sends her, including an awesome performance from Michael Shannon. Unfortunately, the ending to that story kind of sucked too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channel4s-JonSnow Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 5 minutes ago, briantw said: Just watched Nocturnal Animals. I'm not sure I've ever seen a prettier movie with less substance. The ending was just godawful. The film felt like it was building to something and then...nothing happened. And I don't mean nothing it was just a bad ending. I mean literally nothing happened. The film felt like fucking for two hours, being unable to cum, and then just deciding to go to sleep. The best parts of the film were the parts adapting the novel that Amy Adams' ex sends her, including an awesome performance from Michael Shannon. Unfortunately, the ending to that story kind of sucked too. Haha, that's exactly how I'd describe it. It gives the impression of being a brilliant movie, but in actuality it's pretty awful one wrapped up in gloss. i honestly thought it was going to do something interesting with the authors intentions but nope, they just sort of left it and the ending just sat there stinking the movie out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briantw Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 5 minutes ago, Channel4s-JonSnow said: Haha, that's exactly how I'd describe it. It gives the impression of being a brilliant movie, but in actuality it's pretty awful one wrapped up in gloss. i honestly thought it was going to do something interesting with the authors intentions but nope, they just sort of left it and the ending just sat there stinking the movie out Gonna spoiler this for anyone who didn't see the movie (although seriously...don't waste your time)... Spoiler Yeah, when it ended my first thought was: "What the fuck was the point of all that?" I mean, I get that Amy Adams' life is miserable now and her ex got some petty revenge by pointing it out and standing her up, but seriously...that's fucking it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay B. Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share Posted March 2, 2017 16 minutes ago, briantw said: Gonna spoiler this for anyone who didn't see the movie (although seriously...don't waste your time)... Hide contents Yeah, when it ended my first thought was: "What the fuck was the point of all that?" I mean, I get that Amy Adams' life is miserable now and her ex got some petty revenge by pointing it out and standing her up, but seriously...that's fucking it? Yup. Spoiler He trolled her...that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channel4s-JonSnow Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 30 minutes ago, briantw said: Gonna spoiler this for anyone who didn't see the movie (although seriously...don't waste your time)... Hide contents Yeah, when it ended my first thought was: "What the fuck was the point of all that?" I mean, I get that Amy Adams' life is miserable now and her ex got some petty revenge by pointing it out and standing her up, but seriously...that's fucking it? Spoiler Yeah the ending was a real let down, because everything was pointing towards some sort of clever revenge drama. It ended up being the crappest type of revenge possible. I couldn't imagine anything less impactful. The real signpost that there was no substance to the tale was when Amy Adams describes leaving him in the most terrible way.. expect it turned out to not really be all that terrible at all. I was expecting her to have cut off his balls or something..but nah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briantw Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Just now, Channel4s-JonSnow said: Hide contents Yeah the ending was a real let down, because everything was pointing towards some sort of clever revenge drama. It ended up being the crappest type of revenge possible. I couldn't imagine anything less impactful. The real signpost that there was no substance to the tale was when Amy Adams describes leaving him in the most terrible way.. expect it turned out to not really be all that terrible at all. I was expecting her to have cut off his balls or something..but nah. Yeah, the previews led me to believe that what she did to him was far worse than what actually happened. I mean, don't get me wrong...what she did was pretty terrible by real life standards, but by movie standards it felt pretty pedestrian. Then again, given that his "revenge" was super petty, I guess it made sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channel4s-JonSnow Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 7 minutes ago, briantw said: Yeah, the previews led me to believe that what she did to him was far worse than what actually happened. I mean, don't get me wrong...what she did was pretty terrible by real life standards, but by movie standards it felt pretty pedestrian. Then again, given that his "revenge" was super petty, I guess it made sense. Yeah, in movie terms the actual real life events outside of his story are incredibly petty and small fry. They are the equivilent of a movie about some getting revenge on someone for stealing their pen, by sticking their tongue out at them when their back is turned. Pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Killer Snark Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 I was completely underwhelmed by Nocturnal Animals as well. About the best thing I can say about that movie, because I don't really remember too much about it (which is always a bad omen) is that I like Amy Adams. I just watched Fences. The film has a few detractors, even among mainstream critics, who've been left cold by its deliberate underdirection. Or at least the illusion that its underdirected. The film is bound to feel a bit stagy, because it is based on a play. Aside from my own caveat that it goes on too long in its last fifteen minutes or so, and the conclusion could be stronger (which is not Denzel Wasington's fault), it's a terrific film. Wasington and Viola Davis pitch in exemplary performances, the source material is beautifully written, it is beautifully free of the string laden overstatement and Meryl Streep histrionics others may have forced on it, and it's fully deserving of its general praise. I've added it to my list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbunting Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 I think most people who watched Nocturnal Animals had the same basic response. Spoiler The trailers led you to believe that Amy Adams had something to do with what we see happening in the book he sent her. It was all very misleading and didn't really go anywhere. It's a shame because there were a lot of people in the movie who gave good performances that were wasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channel4s-JonSnow Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 10 minutes ago, dbunting said: I think most people who watched Nocturnal Animals had the same basic response. Hide contents The trailers led you to believe that Amy Adams had something to do with what we see happening in the book he sent her. It was all very misleading and didn't really go anywhere. It's a shame because there were a lot of people in the movie who gave good performances that were wasted. Its also very beautiful, but in a very empty sense. A bit like a fashion show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbunting Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 17 minutes ago, Channel4s-JonSnow said: Its also very beautiful, but in a very empty sense. A bit like a fashion show. Yeah no doubt about that, I left the movie thinking I liked it but wished it had ended differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Killer Snark Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Same here, re everyone else's comments. I could not believe how weak the resolution was, that I thought might rescue a well stylised but fairly metricious film. It was a bit like watching Total Recall and finding out not only that the main character had imagined the events of the film on his 'head holiday', but the director comes on at the end to tell the audience they've been trolled, because they've just been watching a movie, but the main character is based on an accountant somewhere named Steve. Probably a bad analogy. But talk about a shaggy dog story. My mother and sister liked it, but even they were baffled by the pointlessness of the end. Not the most overrated film of the year, though. Not by a long shot. I'd recommend the well regarded but completely plotless, characterless, toneless and irrelevant Certain Women myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meera of Tarth Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 14 hours ago, The Killer Snark said: JonSnow - A growing number of people are admitting what they really think about Moonlight as well. I hate to be too hard on it, though. The film has some merit. Sometimes fragrant puffery can really do a disservice to your appreciation of a film. Meera - The incompetence during the prize giving really angered me. It put both sets of people in a horrible position, and if I'd been a member of either party I'd have been yelling about it on stage. I'm adding Hardcore Henry to my list, because I'd forgotten about it earlier. I'm also adding a surreal Mexican social allegory/ scifi/ arthouse porn pic I've just seen called We Are the Flesh. It's a niche taste, but it's excellent, and should appeal to anyone who likes Lynch's Eraserhead, Jodorowsky and Gaspar Noe. Just bubbling under for me is The Love Witch. It's not among my favourite films of the year, but it's a lot of fun, and I have a soft spot for Anna Biller. I actually own Viva, which was her first and previous film. I think they should have made all of them sit again on their seats and announce the name of the film again. What happened with everyone on stage (even there was a girl from Moonlight -I don't know if she was an actress/producer...- who said something like "I think the crew of La La Land" has left, I don't know" meaning that during some time there was everyone there, from both films, people exchanging their Oscars!.....) And it had to be the producer from La La Land who announced the mistake? Someone from the Oscars organisers should have said that...... It was a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meera of Tarth Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Has anyone watched Hidden Figures=? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Killer Snark Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 4 hours ago, Meera of Tarth said: Has anyone watched Hidden Figures=? I haven't seen it yet. The only film at the moment I'm raring to see is Personal Shopper, which finally comes out in March in the UK after being delayed in distributor limbo for almost a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isis Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 On Thu Mar 02 2017 at 5:03 PM, Channel4s-JonSnow said: Its also very beautiful, but in a very empty sense. A bit like a fashion show. Yes, that's kind of the point - because it became clear that image, appearance and basically money was more important than principles to Amy Adam's character. In the beginning she rebels against her mother, saying she is nothing like her, that love and integrity are more important to her than money but ultimately she turns into her mother. She was just a vapid, self centred, pampered bit of fluff all along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briantw Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 34 minutes ago, Isis said: Yes, that's kind of the point - because it became clear that image, appearance and basically money was more important than principles to Amy Adam's character. In the beginning she rebels against her mother, saying she is nothing like her, that love and integrity are more important to her than money but ultimately she turns into her mother. She was just a vapid, self centred, pampered bit of fluff all along. Yeah, but the problem is that it just wasn't a very satisfying movie. You can get exactly what the director was trying to do and still think it was boring, and that's how I felt about Nocturnal Animals. The movie just ultimately didn't amount to anything. The premise was interesting, and it seemed like it was building to something fun, but then it just didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channel4s-JonSnow Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 I'm sure there is some artistic merit to making a movie as empty and superficial as its main character but that doesn't mean people are going to enjoy it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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