Lady Blizzardborn Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Do we think Harry will die defending Sansa in a trial by combat on the charge of regicide? I'm fairly certain the marriage won't go forward. If Sansa shows up looking like Sansa, and wearing a Stark maiden cape, the whole show stops. We might even get Harry claiming he's not worthy of wedding Lord Stark's daughter. Even if they agree to keep being engaged, I don't think they get married then and there. And I think LF knows about Aegon and plans to marry Sansa to him, then bump him off and marry her himself, taking over as regent for her child and thereby ruling from the IT. Not that I think it will happen, just what I think he's planning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chatty Duelist Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Sweet. Make it happen GRRM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Sansa Stark Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 With the possible betrothal between Sansa and Aegon we have to keep in mind that Aegon is pawn of Varys and how is Littlefinger capable of sealing a betrothal between Sansa and Aegon when Varys probably wouldn't ally himself with Littlefinger. Now I think it will go down as this: Sansa kills Littlefinger and takes a position of power in the Vale and thus reveals herself to the Vale lords, Varys hears from his little birds that Sansa is in the Vale and tries to scheme by making Sansa a bride to Aegon, but Sansa - who already killed Littlefinger because of his idea of killing her cousin and trading her as if she is a horse - will refuse it and therefore fulfill the foreshadowing to the tourney at Ashford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenswood Sisterhood Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 With the possible betrothal between Sansa and Aegon we have to keep in mind that Aegon is pawn of Varys and how is Littlefinger capable of sealing a betrothal between Sansa and Aegon when Varys probably wouldn't ally himself with Littlefinger. Now I think it will go down as this: Sansa kills Littlefinger and takes a position of power in the Vale and thus reveals herself to the Vale lords, Varys hears from his little birds that Sansa is in the Vale and tries to scheme by making Sansa a bride to Aegon, but Sansa - who already killed Littlefinger because of his idea of killing her cousin and trading her as if she is a horse - will refuse it and therefore fulfill the foreshadowing to the tourney at Ashford.I think you nailed it there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenswood Sisterhood Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 I can see this happening, credit to the person who came up with it. I think it will be a Sansa-Aegon match, but it won't actually happen. I find the idea of Jon and Sansa quite creepy. I don't think it will be accepted by the North either, not just because they would still be cousins, but they actually grew up as brother and sister. Theon is called kinslayer by the Northern lords and their men because he grew up with the Stark boys, so I can't see a Jon-Sansa union being accepted.So maybe a Sansa-Aegon betrothal for political reason, but I think the real bond will be between Sansa and Sandor, not necessarily romantic, but he will protect her instead of Lady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippocras Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Doesn't this work just as well for Margery's husbands potentially? I mean she has a legit Barathon and two Lannisters. Her constant champion Loras is a Tyrell, and there is reasonable speculation she might end up with Jon or Aegon.But then she might die first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Valarr was not a true champion. He jousted in arranged matches against weak opponents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 The fate of LF is explained here. He will try to rape Sansa just before the wedding just like Viserys tried to claim Dany before Drogo by which he nearly ruined years of planning. Then Sansa will make a Varys of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Roberto Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 It's a fun theory, but has too many holes in it. The aforementioned Robert Arryn is one. The fact that those 5 were only lady Ashford's temporary champions (we never know how the tourney ends) is another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Weirwoods Eyes Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 I can see this happening, credit to the person who came up with it. I think it will be a Sansa-Aegon match, but it won't actually happen. I find the idea of Jon and Sansa quite creepy. I don't think it will be accepted by the North either, not just because they would still be cousins, but they actually grew up as brother and sister.Theon is called kinslayer by the Northern lords and their men because he grew up with the Stark boys, so I can't see a Jon-Sansa union being accepted.So maybe a Sansa-Aegon betrothal for political reason, but I think the real bond will be between Sansa and Sandor, not necessarily romantic, but he will protect her instead of Lady. I think Theon is called kinslayer at Winterfell because the Millers boys or at least the youngest was his own son. just a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippocras Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 I think Theon is called kinslayer at Winterfell because the Millers boys or at least the youngest was his own son. just a point.I think so too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rain Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 I hope this is legit that hardyng guy sounds like a massive dong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmyscouser Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Well as some have pointed out, there was talk of marrying Sansa to SR, and there was no "Arryn" at Ashford...though, the SR engagement was always the least likely, and perhaps not credible enough to count. Also, Harry the Heir, is part Arryn by blood anyway...and of course these 'suitors' might just be symbolizing different dynasties/families/regions that are trying to *claim* Sansa. Or maybe the other 5 are moving through her life, while SR is a permanent ally. I mean if you believe the whole Rober Dudley business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenswood Sisterhood Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 I think Theon is called kinslayer at Winterfell because the Millers boys or at least the youngest was his own son. just a point.Alright. I remember the references to him bedding the miller's wife, but I don't remember exactly who calls him kinslayer, is it people that would know about the boys not being Bran and Rickon? I'm not convinced, could someone point me to a thread about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippocras Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Alright. I remember the references to him bedding the miller's wife, but I don't remember exactly who calls him kinslayer, is it people that would know about the boys not being Bran and Rickon? I'm not convinced, could someone point me to a thread about this?No one can answer that because no one knows who the hooded man of Winterfell is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Yes we do... it's Theon. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Roberto Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Alright. I remember the references to him bedding the miller's wife, but I don't remember exactly who calls him kinslayer, is it people that would know about the boys not being Bran and Rickon? I'm not convinced, could someone point me to a thread about this? Better yet, I can point you to a +300k word compilation of essays in which this whole idea was brought up: http://branvras.free.fr/HuisClos/Contents.html (not that I agree with it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippocras Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Yes we do... it's Theon. :DBy that crackpot he is calling HIMSELF kinslayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Exactly! Glad you agree. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Not That Littlefinger Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 damn. that makes so much sense. 5 marriages/engagements and 5 plots that fell apart. i think she'll definitely get involved with aegon and it will fall apart one way or another. maybe she will decide against it and will do something to get herself out of it. i like that idea a lot.does anyone think that this might be too obvious foreshadowing? it seems really plain and upfront. 13 year old maiden, 5 champions. same names as sansa's suiters. it seems almost too easy to figure out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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