Nictarion Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 The Sopranos was not famous just for long-form storytelling. It was the quality and style of storytelling and, more importantly for it being influential, the acclaim that it generated. It basically firmly cemented and distributed the idea that television could be an art form just as profound and important as film.I completely agree with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeping Sore Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I won't dispute that, I think it's giving too much credit- or at least giving too little credit to what went before- to say that the Sopranos began the movement. It may have been the starting moment of the golden age but it didn't come completely out of nowhere. I think you're overlooking The West Wing in particular, there. The West Wing and the Sopranos both started in 1999. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictarion Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I've never seen one single episode of The West Wing, but if it's anything like The Newsroom (a show i find extremely pretentious) I'm quite ok with never seeing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shryke Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 The West Wing and the Sopranos both started in 1999.Exactly what I was about to say. The Golden Age of Television we are referring to here began more or less with cable networks basically trying to make their own The Sopranos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castel Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I've never seen one single episode of The West Wing, but if it's anything like The Newsroom (a show i find extremely pretentious) I'm quite ok with never seeing it. It wasn't, thank God. It could be sappy but it was not The Newsroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myshkin Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Exactly what I was about to say.The Golden Age of Television we are referring to here began more or less with cable networks basically trying to make their own The Sopranos. Categorically wrong. The golden age of television began when Donald P. Bellisario and Glen A. Larson formed an alliance to create Magnum P.I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shryke Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Categorically wrong. The golden age of television began when Donald P. Bellisario and Glen A. Larson formed an alliance to create Magnum P.I. I'll hear no more of your moustache-biased propaganda! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeping Sore Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Categorically wrong. The golden age of television began when Donald P. Bellisario and Glen A. Larson formed an alliance to create Magnum P.I. I just started re-watching Magnum when I saw the full run was on Netflix. It actually holds up much better than I expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 However, arc series such as Babylon-5, Xena, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Homicide (which had crossed with Hill Street Blues) and Sex in the City had already been very successful BEFORE 1999. Well, at least Homicide survived for 7 seasons, if not always VERY successful. :) The Wire grew out of Homicide -- via The Corner -- when David Simon attempted first to try out what he'd learned from Homicide. The Sopranos in no way invented this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freshwater Spartan Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Arc shows weren't invented by the Sopranos no but that show was a watershed moment for TV in a way none of those other shows were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainblade Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I don't think that's really true... The dragons arent even that big a part of GoT. I think that with the sheer amount of TV shows being made, the amount of quality shows should at least remain steady. The only difference might be that we've done a lot already, and future shows might be too similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myshkin Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Am I the only person in the world who thinks The Sopranos wasn't all that great? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Antony Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Am I the only person in the world who thinks The Sopranos wasn't all that great?I hope so :PRegardless if you like the show or not its impossible to minimize the influence it had Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nox Irradiata Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kindly Old Man Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Am I the only person in the world who thinks The Sopranos wasn't all that great? Nope. You and this guy should probably hang out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shryke Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Am I the only person in the world who thinks The Sopranos wasn't all that great? I don't care for it either. But I find mob movies inherently unexciting in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freshwater Spartan Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Most people from average Joe six-pack to ultra sophisticated snobs think that the sopranos was a great show. Of course anyone is allowed to disagree but if you don't think that Sopronos was great what is? And would your show likely have the same broad based appeal? My guess is probably not. That show truly did kick start a golden age.For what it's worth I thought the first two seasons were great. After that it was a little hit or miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanna Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Sopranos was a great show, but i wouldn't re-watch the entire thing a 2nd time, unlike most shows i love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictarion Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Sopranos was a great show, but i wouldn't re-watch the entire thing a 2nd time, unlike most shows i love.I'm the exact opposite. I think The Sopranos has the best rewatchabilty factor of any of my favorite shows.The best show I've seen that I have absolutely no desire to watch again is probably Breaking Bad. Each their own I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Antony Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I'm the exact opposite. I think The Sopranos has the best rewatchabilty factor of any of my favorite shows..Agreed. Definitely the most replay value for me. Helps that a lot of the eps are great stand alonesAlso its fucking hilarious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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