HexMachina Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Aegon IV, despite being a complete and utter POS, did give the family sword to Daemon for a good reason. Homeboy was an asskicker. Did Daeron even pick up a sword in the war? NOPE, he relied on Brynden to do the heavy lifting and commanding while Daeron pranced around in Dornish garb, reading , more than likely. While Daemon was "fighting like the Warrior himself" and after defeating Corby of the KG in single combat, did he then take the opportunity to attack Prince Maeker? NOPE, he nobly defended his defeated opponent's injured body. "inhumanly" beautiful, strong, tall, and leads by example. Sounds like a King to me, sign me up for Daemon ANY day of the week.because we all know that being good with a sword makes you a great King. Not things like, oh, forging peace with you old enemies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Arryn Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 O right. Bob has proven how important these things are to be a GOOD king. :PHe hasn't not disproven it's lack of invalidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bastard of Walton Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Nope. They chose to remain Blackfyres, so Blackfyres they are. The Karstarks were once Starks, but that doesn't mean they are Starks nowEither way I'm in the Blackfyre camp. It's either one Bastard or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetiger Posted February 24, 2015 Author Share Posted February 24, 2015 And do you think that ser Morgil Hastwyck was right and Daeron was son of Dragonknight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mino Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 He hasn't not disproven it's lack of invalidity. Well, being tall and beautiful and strong didn't helped him either. These things doesn't qualify someone for kingship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigUpHerBones Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 because we all know that being good with a sword makes you a great King. Not things like, oh, forging peace with you old enemies. in times of war, you side with the warrior. not the academic. the Second Blackfyre Rebellion occurred less than 10 years after his death, who exactly did he make peace with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexMachina Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 And do you think that ser Morgil Hastwyck was right and Daeron was son of Dragonknight? Nothing in the characters of Aemon or Naerys suggests this is true. So no, more's the pity. Far better if he HADNT been Aegon IV's son, as JCRB said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Arryn Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Nope. They chose to remain Blackfyres, so Blackfyres they are. The Karstarks were once Starks, but that doesn't mean they are Starks nowNah. The Yorks revived Plantagenet when it was politically expedient despite being a cadet branch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 the Second Blackfyre Rebellion occurred less than 10 years after his death, who exactly did he make peace with? Dorne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexMachina Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 in times of war, you side with the warrior. not the academic. the Second Blackfyre Rebellion occurred less than 10 years after his death, who exactly did he make peace with?Dorne.The Blackfyre Rebellion's were not Daeron's fault, they were the actions of a petulant man egged on my ambitious Lords. Daemon showed no indications of being a good King. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Arryn Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Well, being tall and beautiful and strong didn't helped him either. These things doesn't qualify someone for kingship.I'd actually argue that it helped a lot, it just didn't undo other areas of incompetence. But it helped make him popular, and that's the lifeblood of feudal kingship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bastard of Walton Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Nah. The Yorks revived Plantagenet when it was politically expedient despite being a cadet branch.Good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigUpHerBones Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Dorne. He had been in bed with Dorne for awhile, that was nothing surprising or even difficult. This was close to 200 years after AL, i am sure the resentment had dissipated. One of the reasons Daemon had so much support was because of the Dornish influence in court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Winter Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 And do you think that ser Morgil Hastwyck was right and Daeron was son of Dragonknight? There's no way for us to know that, but I don't really care. In fact, I agree with JCRB here: I hope that Naerys found love outside of her horribly abusive marriage, and I hope that Daeron was sired by gallant and loving knight rather than irresposible drunk rapist. in times of war, you side with the warrior. not the academic. the Second Blackfyre Rebellion occurred less than 10 years after his death, who exactly did he make peace with? Yeah, plenty of people thought so, siding with Blackfyres instead of Daemon. And they lost. Five fucking times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twenty of House Goodmen Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Daemon I seemed liked a chivalrous guy, but he was also an easily manipulated fool. Don't think I'd support him. Daemon II was a pretty cool guy, but I'm not sure he was kingship material. We don't have much info on the other Blackfyres, but from the little info we have, it seems Aenys was the most decent of the bunch. I'd probably support him if had to support any Blackfyre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexMachina Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 He had been in bed with Dorne for awhile, that was nothing surprising or even difficult. This was close to 200 years after AL, i am sure the resentment had dissipated. One of the reasons Daemon had so much support was because of the Dornish influence in court.Yes, lets support the King who is pushing blantantly racist policies. We don't want no stinking foreign Dornishmen, more war for us! Yargh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 He had been in bed with Dorne for awhile, that was nothing surprising or even difficult. This was close to 200 years after AL, i am sure the resentment had dissipated. One of the reasons Daemon had so much support was because of the Dornish influence in court. So? He still brought Dorne into the realm, peacefully I might add. Unlike the 'warrior', Daeron I, who lost his own life as well as the lives of tens of thousands in his attempt and still failed. And one of the reasons Daemon had as much support as he did was because he was manipulated into starting a war by ambitious lords who probably felt they had more to gain with Daemon i.e. a puppet on the throne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alternis Dim Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Aegon IV, despite being a complete and utter POS, did give the family sword to Daemon for a good reason. One more reason to keep him away from the throne. I wouldn't trust Aegon IV's judgement at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balerion the kitten Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Daeron all the way, daemon was a power hungry greedy idiot just like his dad. Plus I'm a hardcore targaryen loyalist from then till now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdoTheChoombi Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Daeron, the Fact that Aegon IV supported Dameon is a good enough reason on it's own to fight for Daeron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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