LordImp Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 We have read about the deep ones i TWOIAF , squishers was mentioned in the books , we have House Borell who has webbed fingers etc. We know that there was/ is an mysterious sea race. But will it have anything to say on the story , will they appear or are they just world bulding. Any toughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay's Penguins Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 No. Just fun backstory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion of the West Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 No. Just fun backstory. I hope this is true. I wouldn't want the story to go off-tracks with lots of monsters and stuff running around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay's Penguins Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 I hope this is true. I wouldn't want the story to go off-tracks with lots of monsters and stuff running around. There is hardly enough time to fit the main story in now, with adding new plots. Adding this is just too much, at most Aeron summons a kraken. We don't have time for Sarnori, ancient Asshai'i, Deep Ones, mazemakers etc. No foreshadowing either, and this is hardly something the author would miss foreshadowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roose is Azor Ahai Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Imagine Damphair summoning this: http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/191/4/0/sea_monsters_by_ldn_rdnt-d2njoi7.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nozlym Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Imagine Damphair summoning this: http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/191/4/0/sea_monsters_by_ldn_rdnt-d2njoi7.jpg haha thats sick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oursisthefury69 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 There is hardly enough time to fit the main story in now, with adding new plots. Adding this is just too much, at most Aeron summons a kraken. We don't have time for Sarnori, ancient Asshai'i, Deep Ones, mazemakers etc. No foreshadowing either, and this is hardly something the author would miss foreshadowing. Really? Maybe I hallucinated all the references (encrypted and literal alike) about dead things in the water; which has been referenced progressively more throughout the series and was becoming involved directly in plotlines at the end of Dance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrell_like_Squirrel Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 I think we might get something, not a whole lot but a little more explanation then we've been given. It's certainly possible that it's just fun world building, but I got a feeling that we might get some more info on them and they might end up playing some kind of role. Either way, I won't be disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man of Many Faces Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 We may get something "sea-based" but I have a feeling it's a kraken, or something that ties is with the Drowned God and the Iron Born. I think a lot of that was just just fun world building, and maybe material for a prequel or separate story, but as far as ASOIAF is concerned I think we have enough going on right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerys Blackfyre Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 ya ya cthulhu ftaghn, but no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durran Durrandon Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 I think they are there in the background to suggest that their may be ancient, very ancient sources from which humans had at one time learned bad mojo, but I thinink ever5ything going on right now will ultimately be caused and solved by humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgf Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 We may get something "sea-based" but I have a feeling it's a kraken, or something that ties is with the Drowned God and the Iron Born. I think a lot of that was just just fun world building, and maybe material for a prequel or separate story, but as far as ASOIAF is concerned I think we have enough going on right now. Given the theory presented in the World book about the iron islands having originally been populated by a race of men that came from out of the sea...couldn't the deep ones be that something that ties in with the ironborn and the drowned god? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blind Beth the Cat Lady Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 It seems likely to me that Patchface has been "turned" or somehow possessed by a sea-based power--and he's also been predicted to cause a lot of damage at some point. ("skulls all around him") Also consider how firmly the Ironborn believe that when they die they must be returned to the sea so that they can "rise again, harder and stronger" and feast in the Drowned God's watery halls. What if their ancestors saw real evidence of such things happening? Sure sounds like there is some major magic down there that can do something similar to raising wights. Add that to "dead things in the water" and I am 90% sure the Deep Ones will play some sort of role in the mass disaster will likely form the climax of the story. Chekhov's Ocean Zombie Army has officially been hung on the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mychel_Redfort Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 It seems likely to me that Patchface has been "turned" or somehow possessed by a sea-based power--and he's also been predicted to cause a lot of damage at some point. ("skulls all around him") Can't the skulls symbolize all the people that were with him on the ship and died during the wreckage at Shipbreaker Bay ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joluoto2 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 I think the Deep Ones are just flavour that won't really be important in the main ASoIaF story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelborn Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 I think the Deep Ones are just flavour that won't really be important in the main ASoIaF story. Yep. I had one crazy theory about the oily black stones and how they would explain the origins of magic, Dawn, Asshai etc. But if they were really important, they would be at least mentioned in ASOIAF which they aren't, nor are the deep ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otho Bracken Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Martin references his influences (like Lovecraft) here and there, but these are all on the margins of the story and won't play any central role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blind Beth the Cat Lady Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Can't the skulls symbolize all the people that were with him on the ship and died during the wreckage at Shipbreaker Bay ? My instinct says no. Mel mixes a lot of things up, but so far she hasn't confused the past with the future. Besides, there's so many other creepy things with Patchface, and he's on his way to the creepy Nightfort. I'd be shocked if he wasn't associated with future magic-related deaths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durran Durrandon Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 The Deep Ones and related materials pop up through out ASOIAF, not just TWOIAF. "That which is dead cannot die" as well as the Seastone Chair set off immediate bells and whistles for me. The squishers took ma second read. As did the quote from n the b naval officer at the port of Oldtown, when he trlks Sam that Lord Hightower and his daughter are locked up in the tower. Hen suggests sarcastically to Sam that they are consulting magic books and might summon an army from the deep to stop the Ironborn . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelborn Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 The Deep Ones and related materials pop up through out ASOIAF, not just TWOIAF. "That which is dead cannot die" as well as the Seastone Chair set off immediate bells and whistles for me. The squishers took ma second read. As did the quote from n the b naval officer at the port of Oldtown, when he trlks Sam that Lord Hightower and his daughter are locked up in the tower. Hen suggests sarcastically to Sam that they are consulting magic books and might summon an army from the deep to stop the Ironborn . That wouldn't feel like Checkhov's Gun because it was such a minor reference that only people who has read TWOIAF (and really paid attention) would get. And we only know the Seastone Chair and the Ironborn might have a connection with them because of TWOIAF. Damn. I want to be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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