PatrickStormborn Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 WHAT THE FUCK HAVE THEY DONE TO DAENERYS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeepingKnight Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 The worst part of this episode was Tyrion, again. One, Jorah and Tyrion sailed to Valyria from Volantis, hundreds of miles away, in a boat just big enough for the two of them, with little to no food or water. Two, the Greyscale reveal was very clumsily done. Three, they SAILED TO VALYRIA! What the fuck. Like, suck it Euron, your accomplishment means shit. Any idiot in a rowboat can do it. W-.... What's a Euron? Is this your hack fan fic again? Pft, leave it to the real writers, loser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeepingKnight Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 WHAT THE FUCK HAVE THEY DONE TO DAENERYS IMPROVED HER! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Cygne Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 WHAT THE FUCK HAVE THEY DONE TO DAENERYS The same thing they did to the rest of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 WHAT THE FUCK HAVE THEY DONE TO DAENERYS They've done their damned best, but there's just no helping that dismal character or her dire arc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Killer Snark Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 The Missandei and Grey Worm romance has to go. It wastes time, it's not in the novels, it is mawkish, and it's tedious as hell. I never liked that subplot and it's stretched well past my patience now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kind Nihilist Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 I'm very uncomfortable with Dany's "proposal" to Hizdahr. The guy goes from fearing for his life and genuinely believing he's about to be eaten alive by her dragons to being told he has no choice but to marry her. If they sleep together, I won't be able to see it as anything but marital rape because that dude is not willing. What they wanted to portray as an empowered moment on Dany's behalf turned into a very sketchy scene. Yes, Dany's behaviour the whole episode was one big WTF!? And the irony of her feeding her dragons some guy after Barristan's Mad King speech? Priceless! A whole new level of writing idiocy... Not only did they get back to land, but they're apparently miles away from the ruins. I guess Jorah swam or walked all the way out with an unconscious Tyrion on his back. Yes lol Plus, the scenery was beautiful, but so totally not Valyria... Um, What the Fuck? People giving this a 10. I will say that Iwan Rheon can act. He's the only person who is able to "act" in a way that you see the front he puts on and the emotion behind the front...yeah, I'm looking at you Aiden Gillen, who can't do that for s**. Sansa Stark. My oh my. Can they make this girl any stupider? Some woman comes to her and offers her help and she just stands there like a dumbass? Says nothing, just goes to look at the tower. Then, she glares at the Boltons and is rude to them during dinner -- hey, honey, they flay people alive, this is not the way to win friends and influence people. And what happened to Dany? She is crazier now in the show than she was i the books. Don't give up on your children but you leave the fucking dragons chained up. And in the blink of an eye decide to get married. Poor Jorah. I admit I never expected greyscale was going to be any big deal in the books, but I guess it is. Also, looks like we will get Oldtown and Euron next year. Did I mention that Sansa is stupider now than she was when she was supposed to be 11? How can anyone watch that and think this is an empowered person? Or a person who has any basic skills of survival or manipulation? I usually vote 1. That should even things out a bit. One small mercy on the WF plot was that at least we didn't have to put up with yet another episode of Batfinger trying to justify the unjustifiable... My initial thoughts: http://gotgifsandmusings.tumblr.com/post/118662836502/got-5x05-musingsI'll rant later but for now it's off to bed...that episode was warm milk.EtaOh and don't forget to vote for most butchered: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1tET9HSUQtYwKhYCL3rHpv1VGtCj00vQ-7Y3jwrVTtHM/viewform Excellent commentary, as usual. As for the episode, boring, predictable stuff, but still the least bad we got this season and we were mercifully spared the sight of Porne... Dany got my vote this week, despite... Valyria. Also, I would like to apologize to everyone for yesterday's drunken ramblings. I got me a Tyrion moment :blushing: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denam_Pavel Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Brienne riding around Moat Cailin not only being feasible but quickly and easily accomplished pisses me off. Brienne's one thing, but what's the point of Moat Cailin if POD can easily make the journey around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kind Nihilist Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 :U nooooo. I hope Sansa saws off his willy. They are going full bizarro here, might as well go full on kung fu bizarro. I kinda hope they do skip this cuz that shit is such a slog. But who knows, they seem to pick and choose what to include at random. That's probably the point of mini-needle :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeepingKnight Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 D&D seem to consistently fail at adapting the spooky/scary stuff from the books properly. AGoT prologue, ASoS prologue, Sam slaying the Other, Valyria, the Stone Men in the Sorrows. The only thing that came close is S4E4's ending, and that itself was undercut by the silliness of the Others (I refuse to call them White Walkers for the most part). If that is really the Night's King then very disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihlus Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 WHAT THE FUCK HAVE THEY DONE TO DAENERYS They had her execute a grown noble in a fit of rage rather than torture little girls in a fit of rage? Also, they significantly whitewashed the absolute HELL that she created in Astapor (and had Yunkai turn out just peachy). W-.... What's a Euron? Is this your hack fan fic again? Pft, leave it to the real writers, loser. I forgot, forgive me. There is no Euron; talking about my hack fan fiction just insults this show's brilliant characters, such as Olyvar and Myranda. The Missandei and Grey Worm romance has to go. It wastes time, it's not in the novels, it is mawkish, and it's tedious as hell. I never liked that subplot and it's stretched well past my patience now. GODDAMIT DON'T INSULT THE GLORIOUS 12 YEAR OLD + EUNUCH ROMANCE, THIS IS TOTALLY NECESSARY AND A WAY BETTER USE OF TIME AND MONEY THAN FLESHING OUT THE NORTH LORDS! Dammit. Why did Barristan have to die? Why couldn't it have been Grey Worm? One tiny thing that really bugged me: Stannis and LF stating that Stannis has more men than Roose, despite Stannis stating the opposite in episode 1, and Roose's map having five flayed men and four flaming harts (and despite the fact that Roose had WAAAAAY more men in the books). Just... why? It completely reverses the mood and makes no sense even within the show's universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpenglowMemories Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 I'm bothered by Stannis going to Sam. Shouldn't Sam be summoned to the King? And where did that letter Aemon was reading come from? Kill the Boy speech was fine, but it felt very "eh" to me, as if there wasn't really any weight behind it. I don't know, but I'm finding a lot of things this season feel thrown in, and don't necessarily seem all that effective. I also feel irked that we got no funeral or service for Barristan. He's there for 10 seconds and then he's gone. I wished they'd spent the dragon-budget this episode on that instead. And I'm not so sure I'm comfortable with Dany going so far as to have someone toasted; the threat seemed enough in my mind. Still ambivalent about Sansa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeepingKnight Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Tyrion's ADwD arc is simply a checklist for them of places he visited. Illyrio's manse at Pentos? Check. Volantis and a brothel? Check. The Sorrows and Stonemen (in a manner of speaking of course)? Check. Accept with the removal of Tysha (though of course Saint Tyrion has been a deep rooted problem for years now) and what it entailed, what is the point? Illyrio's manse was fucking stupid, Volantis was stripped of substance for Tyrion's character and the Sorrows, in the context of his arc, was also gutted of its riveting nature/relevance. And the Stone Men were silly. I personally think with those aforementioned locations and smartly adapting Tyrion embracing all his worst attributes for a time, his sorrow, etc. it could have made excellent television, also with Jon Connington and our blue haired pretender. Same with Jon and many others. Its a fucking checklist. Ygritte has to die? Done. Is the manner in anyway as bittersweet and beautifully executed as it was in the books? No it was cheap and cliche, but fuck me lads, Ygritte stilled died by arrow, so that's all that matters, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnsmith Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 When Stannis left Winterfell hurray and it was snowing. What and I do mean what was the cliff on the right of his army? who needs a lift? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kind Nihilist Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 was just thinking that. First kill Grenn and Pyp.. Now Edd is standing up and speaking against Jon in public :ack: Shit, I can totally see that happening, because... shock value... :bang: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickStormborn Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 They've done their damned best, but there's just no helping that dismal character or her dire arc. So much for "without repercussion"... They had her execute a grown noble in a fit of rage rather than torture little girls in a fit of rage? Also, they significantly whitewashed the absolute HELL that she created in Astapor (and had Yunkai turn out just peachy). You do realise that I'm also annoyed with what they've done to Astapor and Yunkai, right? She gave the Shavepate a free pass to do whatever he thought was best to get results (and then subsequently took this power away from him). It was morally dark, yes, but hardly the same as feeding people to her dragons........... No but seriously, this is the "rant and rave without repercussion" thread. If I have a problem with the direction the showrunners are taking, I don't need idiots defending them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeepingKnight Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Of course we have the almighty God Dave Hill ( :bowdown:) to thank for rewriting the latter half of Jon's ASoS arc. Adapting, nuance, being subtle? All hideous traits investing the hack GRRM's shitstain/waste of paper/offensively bad mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeepingKnight Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 I'm bothered by Stannis going to Sam. Shouldn't Sam be summoned to the King? And where did that letter Aemon was reading come from? Kill the Boy speech was fine, but it felt very "eh" to me, as if there wasn't really any weight behind it. I don't know, but I'm finding a lot of things this season feel thrown in, and don't necessarily seem all that effective. I also feel irked that we got no funeral or service for Barristan. He's there for 10 seconds and then he's gone. I wished they'd spent the dragon-budget this episode on that instead. And I'm not so sure I'm comfortable with Dany going so far as to have someone toasted; the threat seemed enough in my mind. Still ambivalent about Sansa. It seems like everyone is fucking around the Wall with some important plot points coming to mind now and again. In ASoS as soon as Stannis breaks Mance's host/takes prisoners, immediately to business. Elections under way, Stannis making plans/developing tactics already, negotiations over the Castles, the matter of the Others being the immediate concern. And once again those two idiots only have themselves to thank for the terrible pacing out of trying to replicate Blackwater's success (which I think is only so hailed because of the green explosion). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihlus Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 So much for "without repercussion"... You do realise that I'm also annoyed with what they've done to Astapor and Yunkai, right? She gave the Shavepate a free pass to do whatever he thought was best to get results (and then subsequently took this power away from him). It was morally dark, yes, but hardly the same as feeding people to her dragons........... No but seriously, this is the "rant and rave without repercussion" thread. If I have a problem with the direction the showrunners are taking, I don't need idiots defending them. Heh, personal insults. Mature. I would like to know exactly why you think that torturing little girls because she's mad is so much better than executing one noble without trial or investigation to prove he was guilty of anything. As a replacement for that act, this is downright whitewashing. Especially since she had hundreds of those nobles tortured to death at random in both the books and show when she entered the city, because she was mad. Heck, she started her conquest spree in both the books and the show by having every non-slave over the age of 11 butchered in Astapor just because it would be convenient (which would include children, and the "middle class", i.e. the ones with the plain tokars), and because she was mad (seeing a pattern?). It's not exactly out of character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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