Bloodraven's Bastard Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Based on the show neither Jon or Sansa were shown interacting, neither love or indiffrence. In book Jon remembers Sansa teaching him to dance and either complmenting a womans shoe or hair I think. No hate in books just they considered each as a half relative. While the Arya/Jon (related) love is apparent both in the books and the show, I cannot escape the feeling that Sansa was her mother's daughter as it relates to Jon. Maybe not downright hostile to Jon like Cat was, but at best indifferent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodraven's Bastard Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Well, Emilia Clarke and Maisie Williams certainly not. Perhaps you missed the double entendre there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingelheim Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 While the Arya/Jon (related) love is apparent both in the books and the show, I cannot escape the feeling that Sansa was her mother's daughter as it relates to Jon. Maybe not downright hostile to Jon like Cat was, but at best indifferent. She cared for him as he cared for her; I wouldn't say indifferent. They just didn't care for each other as much a they did for the rest of their siblings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodraven's Bastard Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 She cared for him as he cared for her; I wouldn't say indifferent. They just didn't care for each other as much a they did for the rest of their siblings. Interesting viewpoint. Jon loved Robb, Bran and Arya, Sansa loved Robb, Bran and Arya. But Jon didn't love Sansa nor did Sansa love Jon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingelheim Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Interesting viewpoint. Jon loved Robb, Bran and Arya, Sansa loved Robb, Bran and Arya. But Jon didn't love Sansa nor did Sansa love Jon. I wouldn't say that. We have proof of them playing together, dancing, etc. I'm in no way saying they loved each other as they loved the rest. But I believe Sansa started to realize she loved Jon deeply, although she didn't even know it. It's part of her evolution as a character. It's hard to explain. But I think "indifference" is not the right word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodraven's Bastard Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I wouldn't say that. We have proof of them playing together, dancing, etc. I'm in no way saying they loved each other as they loved the rest. But I believe Sansa started to realize she loved Jon deeply, although she didn't even know it. It's part of her evolution as a character. It's hard to explain. But I think "indifference" is not the right word. Belief <> proof, Ingleheim. Maybe Sansa will realize her love for Jon in the future. As for now, he's just her father's bastard son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingelheim Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Belief <> proof, Ingleheim. Maybe Sansa will realize her love for Jon in the future. As for now, he's just her father's bastard son. I'm pretty sure you've already read this, but this essay pretty much explains what I mean: http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/72119-from-pawn-to-player-rethinking-sansa-x/?p=3550409 However, this is the Show forum. And you are right: on the Show, they have no real relationship, at all. But I mention this again: Ramsay telling her of Jon being LC now is not a coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodraven's Bastard Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 However, this is the Show forum. And you are right: on the Show, they have no real relationship, at all. Yep. They pretty much ignore each other, at best. So why are you shipping them like a Harry Potter / Hermione Granger fangirl ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingelheim Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Yep. They pretty much ignore each other, at best. So why are you shipping them like a Harry Potter / Hermione Granger fangirl ? I don't really ship them; I just think it's likely to happen. I ship Jon and Val, and her show version, Karsi, was killed 15 minutes after we met her :frown5: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehandwipes Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Interesting viewpoint. Jon loved Robb, Bran and Arya, Sansa loved Robb, Bran and Arya. But Jon didn't love Sansa nor did Sansa love Jon. Poor Rickon! :crying: At least Shaggydog loves him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channel4s-JonSnow Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I think I would absolutely hate if they introduced a love interest between any of the main characters. It reduces the whole story to a cheesy romance and I think GRRM isn't trying to do that. I've not been a massive fan of any of the romances so far in the book, though possibly on the show they feel a little more real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channel4s-JonSnow Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I wil say maybe Jamie and Cercei 'romance' is strangely my favourite in the books Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz Stark-Targaryen Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I think I would absolutely hate if they introduced a love interest between any of the main characters. It reduces the whole story to a cheesy romance and I think GRRM isn't trying to do that. I've not been a massive fan of any of the romances so far in the book, though possibly on the show they feel a little more real It's a fact of life. To exclude that part of life from the story would be to make GoT, which prides itself on its realism, that much more unrealistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Ghost of Someone Posted August 21, 2015 Author Share Posted August 21, 2015 I think I would absolutely hate if they introduced a love interest between any of the main characters. It reduces the whole story to a cheesy romance and I think GRRM isn't trying to do that. I've not been a massive fan of any of the romances so far in the book, though possibly on the show they feel a little more real Show wise, D&D are controling that and it is a possibility. I agree that GRRM is not into cheesy romance storylines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channel4s-JonSnow Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I think it's too big change for it to happen in the show if it's never going to happen in the books. I just think most romances on TV are handled rather badly and there are usually far more interesting stories to be told than reducing Game of thrones down to a 'will they won't they' narrative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter's Cold Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I don't really ship them; I just think it's likely to happen. I ship Jon and Val, and her show version, Karsi, was killed 15 minutes after we met her :frown5: It's unlikely considering that GRRM blatantly shows that Jon and Arya are far more likely to get together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Morghulis Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Yeah, or showriters in which Sansa for example and Littlefinger as well, in Season 5, are two characters that have had their story's affected by such. Yes and sometimes showwriters improve the characters that GRRM has poorly written such as Jorah not being a pervy, ogling rapist-in-waiting, and Dany an ever ready tit-bearing lesbian come the night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TepidHands Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Most women, lesbians or not, tend to bear tits. In fact, most female mammals do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz Stark-Targaryen Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I think it's too big change for it to happen in the show if it's never going to happen in the books. I just think most romances on TV are handled rather badly and there are usually far more interesting stories to be told than reducing Game of thrones down to a 'will they won't they' narrative. The stuff between Jaime and Brienne was very deftly handled, didn't take over the story, and wasn't a "will they won't they" story at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingelheim Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 It's unlikely considering that GRRM blatantly shows that Jon and Arya are far more likely to get together. I mentioned it already. The only possible choices are close members of Jon's family: either his cousins (Sansa/Arya) or his aunt Daenerys. Any of them is possible right now. Sure, Arya seems the most likely...but not as much as in the books. Anyway, I'd like to see if D&D choose to make him stay single. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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