Beautiful Balon Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Jaime mentions it in AFFC. Jaime remembered many a feast where Emmon sat poking at his food sullenly whilst his wife made ribald jests with whatever household knight had been seated to her left, their conversations punctuated by loud bursts of laughter. She gave Frey four sons, to be sure. At least she says they are his. Clearly we know that Cleos was a Frey, his Frey appearance is a give away. Tion had the customary Frey brown hair. So he may well be a Frey as well.We have not met Lyonal or 'Red' Walder, but his name suggests he has red hair which suggests that he not a Frey. Also naming him Walder might have been done to reinforce his Frey status. It proves that the father was Frey but it doesn't mean that Cleos was the father, remember there are a lot of Freys and we already have examples of intrafamily cuckolding(Black Walder) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jak Scaletongue Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 It proves that the father was Frey but it doesn't mean that Cleos was the father, remember there are a lot of Freys and we already have examples of intrafamily cuckolding(Black Walder)Emmon, you mean, right? Cleos is Genna and Emmon's son (so he clearly couldn't be his own father, unless he found Professor Farnsworth's time machine ;)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarah.jenice Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Ohhh, good one. "Jon, do you know anything about Petyr? He's the most wonderful man in in the world." Haha! Poor guy had no idea he would ensure his own death by helping out Baelish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelittledragonthatcould Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 It proves that the father was Frey but it doesn't mean that Cleos was the father, remember there are a lot of Freys and we already have examples of intrafamily cuckolding(Black Walder)Emma and Genna live at the Rock, not at the Twins so that scenario seems less likely to happen. And Genna is a Lannister, past her best no doubt, but if she was going for a rump in the hay she could do far better than a Frey (and I say that as a Frey fan).Black Walder is the only one I think would have the balls to do that but Cleos is older than him.Addam Marbrand has red hair, Willem Frey (Genna's grandson) is a squire at Marbrand. If red hair is a family trait I'm guessing that Red Walder has a Marbrand father. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beautiful Balon Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Emmon, you mean, right? Cleos is Genna and Emmon's son (so he clearly couldn't be his own father, unless he found Professor Farnsworth's time machine ;))Oh, yeah, you got me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beautiful Balon Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Emma and Genna live at the Rock, not at the Twins so that scenario seems less likely to happen. And Genna is a Lannister, past her best no doubt, but if she was going for a rump in the hay she could do far better than a Frey (and I say that as a Frey fan).Black Walder is the only one I think would have the balls to do that but Cleos is older than him.Addam Marbrand has red hair, Willem Frey (Genna's grandson) is a squire at Marbrand. If red hair is a family trait I'm guessing that Red Walder has a Marbrand father. Yeah, this sounds more plausible to me than what I thought, unless Genna was willing to travel all the way to the twins to get some sweet sweet Frey Booty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 The Lannisters have genes for red hair from Rohanne Webber, so Genna's son being red proves nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jak Scaletongue Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Oh, yeah, you got meJust making sure! There are too many Frey's for me to keep track of - and then they go and re-use all the damn names at least once! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dovakhiin Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 I would consider Rhaella for most miserable wife - based on what we've been told, Aerys's sister-wife wasn't the cause of his misery (like Cersei was for Robert...). Rhaella's the one who had to marry her mad brother and put up with all his sh!t and abuse! To be fair, we're told neither one wanted to marry the other, but I still think Rhaella got the short end of that stick...I agree, but this is about husbands and i can't think of a more miserable married life for a mab in series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Fossoway Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Merrett Frey.He just fails at everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymeria_Stark Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 King Robert couldn't have been to happy. I agree. I can't imagine anyone would be happy married to Cersei Lannister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King17 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Bran being married to a tree must suck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitering Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Robert. He could have been happy if he'd been given some time to select a bride of his own choosing rather than Tywin's daughter. Mind you, Cersei sounds like she was perfectly charming and beautiful as a young woman, so Robert was probably happy with her day 1, other than she was not Lyanna, however, he probably killed any chance of her even bothering to try when he called her Lyanna on their wedding night.Oh crap, nope, Doran! You sent my son away to foster....waaaahh, I am going back to Norvos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaibaman Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Olenna Tyrell's husband. Tyrion even wonders if he rode off the cliff on purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MallisterTheMighty Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Beardless Jon Bettley....Decided to go back to Darry to find and fight the Hound instead of going back home to his homely wife who apparently had the beard Jon lacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
random girl from westeros Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Olenna Tyrell's husband. Tyrion even wonders if he rode off the cliff on purpose. Ding ding ding.I think we might have a winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 She had kin.Yet she had no Targ blood. Or you mean that Varys has no Targ blood?You mean Lady Rogarre from Lys. who some believe is the ancestor of Varys. You know who would be even more miserable? Elmar Frey if he got stuck with Squab (Arya). She can do that to any man.I would like to see who believes it. Robert. I believe that anyone who would had married Cersei would had been miserable with their marriage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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