The Fattest Leech Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Do we ever read about face makeup being used by one of the ladies in the story? I feel like we have, but then I feel like I could be misremembering something. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof. Cecily Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Do you include ladies of the night in this question? From what I can tell those Tyroshi swordsmen use more paint and artifice than any ladies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fattest Leech Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Prof. Cecily said: Do you include ladies of the night in this question? Yes, sorta. I was thinking more along the lines of the general noble ladies of Westeros. I was just reading a really interesting article about something else that made me think of this ASOIAF story. 1 hour ago, Prof. Cecily said: From what I can tell those Tyroshi swordsmen use more paint and artifice than any ladies. Yeah, they sure do However, that does make me wonder about this idea that is rolling around in my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clegane'sPup Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 2 hours ago, The Fattest Leech said: Do we ever read about face makeup being used by one of the ladies in the story? I feel like we have, but then I feel like I could be misremembering something. Thanks! Does powder count as face make up? If it does both Sansa and Lysa used it. A Game of Thrones - Sansa VI "I will need hot water for my bath, please," she told them, "and perfume, and some powder to hide this bruise." The right side of her face was swollen and beginning to ache, but she knew Joffrey would want her to be beautiful. A Storm of Swords - Sansa VI "You may come kiss my cheek, Alayne." Dutifully she approached and knelt beside the bed. Her aunt was drenched in sweet scent, though under that was a sour milky smell. Her cheek tasted of paint and powder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maudisdottir Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 "Paint" would be a reference to greasepaint, ie foundation. So Lysa was really slapping it on if it was thick enough for Sansa to smell it. I'm curious now too whether we hear of any women painting their lips or cheeks red. That would be the more obvious thing to do - even smallfolk can crush up plants or beetles or whatever they have in Westeros to make red colouring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clegane'sPup Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 19 hours ago, maudisdottir said: "Paint" would be a reference to greasepaint, ie foundation. So Lysa was really slapping it on if it was thick enough for Sansa to smell it. I'm curious now too whether we hear of any women painting their lips or cheeks red. That would be the more obvious thing to do - even smallfolk can crush up plants or beetles or whatever they have in Westeros to make red colouring. What Sansa smelled on her auntie was sour milk that could not be disguised by the smell of perfume. Back before there was hot and cold running water coming out of a faucet people did what is call washing high and low. Evidently Lysa didn't wash that day. I would think that there was stuff available to the women of Planetos to paint lips, brows and lashes especially since there were mummer shows traveling around. The broads in the olden days used to pinch their cheeks and bite their lips to add a bit of color. Sounds a little painful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arya Stoneheart Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Is there any detailed writing going over whats happened so far? Ive already read through the wiki and im looking for something much more detailed. Id reread but it took me years to get through the books, i have no focus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maudisdottir Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 4 hours ago, Clegane'sPup said: What Sansa smelled on her auntie was sour milk that could not be disguised by the smell of perfume. Yes, I read that wrong. Sansa didn't "smell" the paint, she Quote Her cheek tasted of paint and powder. it. I still think Lysa was laying it on thick if Sansa could taste it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Just now, maudisdottir said: Yes, I read that wrong. Sansa didn't "smell" the paint, she it. I still think Lysa was laying it on thick if Sansa could taste it. Don't we get something about all this from Cat? When she first meets Lysa in AGoT, doesn't she think about Lysa having too much ''make-up' on? I may be inventing misremembering it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clegane'sPup Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 36 minutes ago, kissdbyfire said: I may be inventing misremembering it... Shucks, don't matter. This is the age of Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 7 minutes ago, Clegane'sPup said: Shucks, don't matter. This is the age of Trump. True. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clegane'sPup Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 15 minutes ago, kissdbyfire said: True. Back to the make up thawg, pumpkin is not a good color especially for Caucasians It took a while for companies to get that insta tan correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 1 minute ago, Clegane'sPup said: Back to the make up thawg, pumpkin is not a good color especially for Caucasians It took a while for companies to get that insta tan correct. I don't think they're there yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catelyn Cerwyn Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Question: where exactly is the Redgrass Field? We know roughly where Whitewalls was, and Bloodraven vows to pull it down by stone and sow the ground with salt rather than have it remain as a place for Blackfyre sympathisers to make pilgrimages. The Redgrass Field however seems to be worthy of some recognition as a place of historical note, but the specific location is never mentioned. Has GRRM mentioned where the final battle was fought? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 23 minutes ago, Catelyn Cerwyn said: Question: where exactly is the Redgrass Field? We know roughly where Whitewalls was, and Bloodraven vows to pull it down by stone and sow the ground with salt rather than have it remain as a place for Blackfyre sympathisers to make pilgrimages. The Redgrass Field however seems to be worthy of some recognition as a place of historical note, but the specific location is never mentioned. Has GRRM mentioned where the final battle was fought? Seems the exact location has not been established yet. http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Redgrass_Field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Wraith Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 On 5/13/2017 at 2:07 PM, The Fattest Leech said: Do we ever read about face makeup being used by one of the ladies in the story? I feel like we have, but then I feel like I could be misremembering something. Thanks! I think Bowen Marsh once referred to Satin as a painted Catamite. I think Jon would have mentioned it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted May 15, 2017 Author Share Posted May 15, 2017 5 hours ago, Catelyn Cerwyn said: Question: where exactly is the Redgrass Field? We know roughly where Whitewalls was, and Bloodraven vows to pull it down by stone and sow the ground with salt rather than have it remain as a place for Blackfyre sympathisers to make pilgrimages. The Redgrass Field however seems to be worthy of some recognition as a place of historical note, but the specific location is never mentioned. Has GRRM mentioned where the final battle was fought? We do not know the exact location, but from and AMA on reddit we do know that it is located somewhere near King's Landing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon2909 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Do we have any paintings in the universe? I know there's one of Margaery's likeness. But who was it painted by? Do artists exist in TWOIAF? Are these artists commoners or of noble blood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maudisdottir Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 We know they have tapestries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lommy's Shade Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 17 hours ago, Falcon2909 said: Do we have any paintings in the universe? I know there's one of Margaery's likeness. But who was it painted by? Do artists exist in TWOIAF? Are these artists commoners or of noble blood? The only painter we meet that I can remember is the woman in Duskendale who repaints Brienne's shield. She also painted the doors of her home. She seems to be a commoner and not in service to any house. It's not mentioned if she does any other kind of paintings, e.g. oil on canvas. Aside from that, the painting in the locket that Renly shows to Ned is described as "a miniature painted in the vivid Myrish style." Maybe fine art painting is an activity that's primarily done by craftsmen from across the Narrow Sea, just like how the best glassblowers and armourers come from the Free Cities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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