Slick Mongoose Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Swindon north slightly better for Labour than the exit poll. A lot of mixed news so far. Really difficult to tell until we get some proper marginals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted June 8, 2017 Author Share Posted June 8, 2017 Quote What would happen if there were actually a "tied" parliament? Another election. The Lib Dems have ruled out a coalition with the Tories and the Tories can't form a majority government, and sure as hell can't survive as a minority one. That's if the figures hold. At the moment a marginal Tory majority looks a little bit more likely.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maarsen Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 4 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: What would happen if there were actually a "tied" parliament? Let's say both major parties get an equal number of seats. A speaker then had to be elected from amongst the members then leaving one party down a seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philokles Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 A minority government could be possible, depending on how close the parties are to 323. Labour could probably rely on the SNP and the Tories on the DUP on many issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denstorebog Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Swindon likes Labour better than the exit poll suggests. Heh. It's gonna be a long night, folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datepalm Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 When they said 'we've got a declaration from Washington [something Sunderland]' in a tone of urgency, my first thought was Good God, what now with Trump? Meanwhile, the Swindon results swinging Labour as the bigger gainers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, Horse of Kent said: A minority government could be possible, depending on how close the parties are to 323. Labour could probably rely on the SNP and the Tories on the DUP on many issues. Under other circumstances, perhaps. But when trying to negotiate exit from the European Union? I just don't see how it's viable to do that in a minority government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick Mongoose Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 So constituencies with a big UKIP vote in 2015 showing a bigger swing to the Tories than expected, constituencies with a small UKIP vote showing a bigger swing to Labour? Not sure what that would mean in terms of seat numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
all swedes are racist Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 any of you kind folks care to help me understand the finer points of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamjm Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 1 hour ago, BigFatCoward said: We will crush the mackems. Well played. I admire your team's ruthlessness in not letting the fact that half the candidates appeared to be missing stop the declaration going ahead. When they said 'we've got a declaration from Washington [something Sunderland]' in a tone of urgency, my first thought was Good God, what now with Trump? Washington is a town (and constituency) between Sunderland and Newcastle, I think George Washington's ancestors had been the local nobility at some point, so there is a connection between the names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick Mongoose Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, commiedore said: any of you kind folks care to help me understand the finer points of this? Gower is a marginal seat, the exit poll predicted that the conservatives would hold onto it. Twitter rumours mean very little though. Wait for the actual results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamjm Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, commiedore said: any of you kind folks care to help me understand the finer points of this? I'm not sure 'astonishing' is justified, I think Gower was the Tory's most marginal constituency and had been Labour for a century before that, so if Labour is doing well then it's not surprising they might win it back. ETA - Obviously I need to type faster to compete with @Slick Mongoose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
all swedes are racist Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 cool, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick Mongoose Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Just now, williamjm said: I'm not sure 'astonishing' is justified, I think Gower was the Tory's most marginal constituency and had been Labour for a century before that, so if Labour is doing well then it's not surprising they might win it back. Surprising? Maybe not the shock of the night but polling suggested the Tories holding up much better in Wales than England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimTuesday Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Watching David Dimbleby is positively delightful. I love seeing him shit on the audio set up of these counting stations is cracking me up. As an American, this is very interesting, the parliamentary nature of British politics and the potential coalition politics that play into it add a layer of complexity that is highly appealing to a politics wonk like me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamjm Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 1 minute ago, Slick Mongoose said: Surprising? Maybe not the shock of the night but polling suggested the Tories holding up much better in Wales than England. That's a good point. It did seem a bit surprising that the Exit Poll was predicting different trends for Wales and England. I'd really like to see a Scottish result, to see whether the Exit Poll in accurate there. The Scottish political landscape is now so different that we can't really extrapolate from English results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick Mongoose Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Ken Clarke is my favourite Tory by miles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimTuesday Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Just now, Slick Mongoose said: Ken Clarke is my favourite Tory by miles. His remark about referendums was pretty funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, GrimTuesday said: His remark about referendums was pretty funny. We could fill the time till the next result having the old referendums/referenda argument. Always a classic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick Mongoose Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Just now, mormont said: We could fill the time till the next result having the old referendums/referenda argument. Always a classic. Luckily Kettering just came in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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