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2 hours ago, direpupy said:

but the actual hatching happened some time before that

I think that is not really clear:

On the last day of the year [130 AC], two hundred forty-one “barefoot lambs,” [...] were covered with pitch and chained to poles along the broad cobbled thoroughfare that ran eastward from Cobbler’s Square up to the Dragonpit. [...]

“Rhaenyra the Pretender was gone, her dragons dead, the mummer kings all fallen, and yet the realm knew not peace,” Septon Eustace wrote soon after. [...]

[Aegon II] started with the crownlands, sending forth his own men and the stormlanders of Borros Baratheon against Rosby, Stokeworth, and Duskendale and the surrounding keeps and villages. [...]

This campaign proved a grave mistake, for it only served to harden the hearts of the late queen’s men against the king. Reports soon reached King’s Landing of warriors gathering in great numbers at Winterfell, Barrowton, and White Harbor. [...]

Even more grave were the tidings from the Vale, where Lady Jeyne Arryn had assembled fifteen hundred knights and eight thousand men-at-arms, and sent envoys to the Braavosi to arrange for ships to bring them down upon King’s Landing. With them would come a dragon. Lady Rhaena of House Targaryen, brave Baela’s twin, had brought a dragon’s egg with her to the Vale…an egg that had proved fertile, bringing forth a pale pink hatchling with black horns and crest. Rhaena named her Morning.

It seems to me it was already some time into 131 AC when the Greens learned about Morning, so she could have hatched very early in 131, as well. I would not consider 129 AC an option anymore, though.

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1 hour ago, The Wondering Wolf said:

It seems to me it was already some time into 131 AC when the Greens learned about Morning, so she could have hatched very early in 131, as well. I would not consider 129 AC an option anymore, though.

This all sounds like its happening in the first few weeks of 131 so yes its an option, but in the chaos of the war news of the hatchling might not have come out untill some time after it hatched. Also Rhaena lost her first hatchling shortly after it hatched so she might not have wanted it made public untill she knew for certain that it would survive, and because a dead hatchling would also be bad omen others would probably agree so 129 is to my mind still an option.

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13 minutes ago, direpupy said:

Also Rhaena lost her first hatchling shortly after it hatched so she might not have wanted it made public untill she knew for certain that it would survive, and because a dead hatchling would also be bad omen others would probably agree so 129 is to my mind still an option.

If Morning had already hatched when Joffrey Velaryon went to King's Landing, he would have told his mother for sure and the small council would have known, too. So I think Morning had not hatched at that point. Anyways, I am not adamant about this.

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2 minutes ago, The Wondering Wolf said:

If Morning had already hatched when Joffrey Velaryon went to King's Landing, he would have told his mother for sure and the small council would have known, too. So I think Morning had not hatched at that point. Anyways, I am not adamant about this.

It is rather vague but i do think the range of the hatching should at least include 131, so in that regard you have a good point.

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10 hours ago, direpupy said:

As far as i can tell its because the beginning of 131 is when the greens heard about Morning, but the actual hatching happened some time before that. 

I guess it depends on how fast the greens heard about it and i do not have my copy of F&B at hand right now to check the wording.

You're right. Here is the wording:

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As the city’s septs rang their bells to signal the end of the old year and the coming of the new, King Aegon II proceeded along the street (thereafter known as Shepherd’s Way, rather than Hill Street as before) in his litter, whilst his knights rode to either side, setting their torches to the captive lambs to light his way.

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Even more grave were the tidings from the Vale, where Lady Jeyne Arryn had assembled fifteen hundred knights and eight thousand men-at-arms, and sent envoys to the Braavosi to arrange for ships to bring them down upon King’s Landing. With them would come a dragon. Lady Rhaena of House Targaryen, brave Baela’s twin, had brought a dragon’s egg with her to the Vale…an egg that had proved fertile, bringing forth a pale pink hatchling with black horns and crest. Rhaena named her Morning.

The Greens learned about Morning's hatching at the start of 131 AC but we do not know when the hatching occured exactly.

My guess is that Morning was born in late 130 AC because one would assume such news would be spread rapidly after the birth. As far as we know Rhaenyra never learn about it. However, we know Rhaenyra received letters from Jeyne Arryn when she was staying at Duskendale in between her flight from the capital (~late 9th moon of 130 AC) and her death at Dragonstone (22th day of the 10th moon of 130 AC).

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Quick note, folks, we are testing moving the wiki to a brand new server. The DB is up to date through the 16th, but any changes made after that may be lost ATM. Apologies for that. I would suggest not doing much work until I give the all clear. Hammering out some issues still.

ETA: Also, those who make family trees and maps and such which uses specialized extensions, if you can poke around and see if those still seem to be looking right, let me know. And any other issues, let me know! 

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Okay, folks, so far I've seen no issues and the server is now steady, so I think we're fine to say that you can now work on this wiki. Do let me know if there are any issues with things like uploading images, getting thumbnails made, etc.

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On 3/18/2024 at 8:20 AM, Ran said:

Okay, folks, so far I've seen no issues and the server is now steady, so I think we're fine to say that you can now work on this wiki. Do let me know if there are any issues with things like uploading images, getting thumbnails made, etc.

I've just uploaded two files that don't produce thumbnails: Dothraki.svg and Naath.svg.

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On 3/18/2024 at 8:20 AM, Ran said:

Okay, folks, so far I've seen no issues and the server is now steady, so I think we're fine to say that you can now work on this wiki. Do let me know if there are any issues with things like uploading images, getting thumbnails made, etc.

I've created a new category "Deaths by chill" but the link between the characters pages and the category itself does not work properly.

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Great timing by the new server. I know it is presently throwing a fit but I'm in an airport waiting to get on a flight and only have a phone. Trying to get some help from a third party to see if they can sort it for me.

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The article about the Stone Road says that it originates in Vaes Dothrak and runs from Adakhakileki and Vaes Jini to Samyriana. Looking at the map, the wording does not make much sense, and I even think it is wrong because the Stone Road goes from Vaes Dothrak to Vaes Jini and then to Samyriana. While there is another road, connecting Adakhakileki with Vaes Jini, this might not be a part of the Stone Road. 

Regarding this other road, it has a slightly different course on varoius maps from TLOIAF. The maps of the East and Central Essos show that starting in Adakhakileki, it does not lead directly to Vaes Jini, but meets with the Stone Road a bit futher to the south. The map of the Dothraki Sea shows that it leads directly to Vaes Jini from southwest (while the Stone Road leaves the city in the south). The map of the Known World has the unnamed road and the Stone Road meet at the southern walls of Vaes Jini. Not sure what to make of it. Depending on the correct version, the road which runs west from Vaes Jini to Vaes Mejhan and Meereen could be identified as Silk Road.

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On 3/18/2024 at 3:20 AM, Ran said:

Okay, folks, so far I've seen no issues and the server is now steady, so I think we're fine to say that you can now work on this wiki. Do let me know if there are any issues with things like uploading images, getting thumbnails made, etc.

When saving edits this week, I have sometimes received a "500 Internal Server Error" message stating:

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Request Timeout

This request takes too long to process, it is timed out by the server. If it should not be timed out, please contact administrator of this web site to increase 'Connection Timeout'.

The edits have been saving despite the error message, fortunately, and the error message isn't appearing every time. 

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Yes, we've been struggling with very high load since the 27th for reasons unknown, which will lead to time outs of PHP requests during those periods.

It appears to be a bug in our caching system, and the developers of our web server (Litespeed Enterprise Web Server) are actively looking at it right now. I hope they'll have a solution soon, but in the interim, try and save any content you edit in a notepad and if doesn't go throughgo ahead and re-do it if it seems needed.

We can turn off the cache and load drops immensely, but they need the system to be on while they debug, so... thanks for your patience! Will report back when they figure out the problem or tell us to turn off cache for a time.

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Aaand.. we're down for a bit due to a problem with upgrading to a debug version of the webserver that would help them diagnose and fix the problems. Will be up soon, hopefully.

 

ETA: Apparently the issue related to the plugin we use for caching. It had a feature that tagged cached pages with details of the templates the pages used. However, it appears it wiki had sufficiently complicated templates that the processing for the cache caused a major slow down. They have now disabled this tagging of templates.

Downside of it is that changes to templates may require that the cache be flushed, do template makers or editors should check in incognito mode to see if any changes are working and, if not, check again in about 10 minutes (that's the length of time we set files to cache). If the old template still appears, let me know and I will get the cache flushed.

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Other pages are loading and saving fine, but I'm not able to preview any edits for "Varys". On different computers and browsers I'm seeing this error message:

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Forbidden

Access to this resource on the server is denied!

 

 


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Having the server guys look at it. mod_Security is giving a false positive because the full URL by sheer coincidence appears to have a base64 encoded section which is a common means of attack on a web server. But it's just coincidence. Asking then if there's a way to white list it.

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