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What potential plot development do you dread the most?


Jolene Brown

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Dany becoming Queen of Westeros, most people would have seen it coming since aGoT and unless she undergoes SIGNIFICANT character development, she would be a terrible queen. Also the whole idea that she is going to become Queen because of her dragons to me feels a little cheap. I would rather her and her dragons be used in a fight against the others or if she does become Queen, she becomes the Mad Queen and is killed by Jaime (for total redemption). Just my opinion though....

Stop Queen Dany hating . . she is awesome . .

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  • As a few of you said earlier, i do not want to see all powerful dragons that everyone bows down to without a fight
  • Dany and Jon? Please GRRM don't do that to me
  • Dany as Queen, she can get to Westeros and fight a few epic battles but it would be great if she died in the end (sorry Dany fans)
  • Tyrion having a happy ending living to eighty nine with a whore in his bed and a belly full of wine. This is my favorite character he deserves a badass death.
  • One of the usual suspects ruling Westeros Sansa, Jon, Dany, etc. I want it to be some secondary character. Can you imagine King Jaime, as foreshadowed in AGOT.
  • The freys not being flayed.

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Happy endings..(and then there was peace for 1000 years).

Well why the hell not a happy ending for once? Downer endings are done to death these days. A happy ending, even a hard-earned and kind of bittersweet one, would be almost revolutionary anymore. It'd certainly be bucking the trend and doing something different.

I for one am kind of sick of the doom and gloom obsession. I'm not into painting my nails black and locking myself in my room to play Linkin Park all day. I think a story can be believable and interesting without making me want to hang myself after I finish it.

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Why is it that everyone seems to want a happy ending where everyone is reunited, the bad guys get their comeuppance from the people they victimized, a hero saves the day, etc.?? What books have you been reading?

I for one hope that a lot more "good" characters will die in horrific, unexpected, Red Wedding-esque ways. I hope Dany loses at least two of her dragons. I hope Roose Bolton outwits Wyman Manderly. I hope Tyrion betrays Dany to save Jaime.

I dread any more Targs other than Jon, and any more "oh I wasn't really dead I'm back now" characters.

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Well why the hell not a happy ending for once? Downer endings are done to death these days. A happy ending, even a hard-earned and kind of bittersweet one, would be almost revolutionary anymore. It'd certainly be bucking the trend and doing something different.

I for one am kind of sick of the doom and gloom obsession. I'm not into painting my nails black and locking myself in my room to play Linkin Park all day. I think a story can be believable and interesting without making me want to hang myself after I finish it.

I want a happy ending, too, for at least some of the characters. The remaining Starks, at the very least. If it ends with every single character in misery, I will be pretty pissed. Yes, the deaths and torture in the story make it a little more realistic, but in real life, some people are happy.

I would be pretty horrified if every one of them died, along with Stannis, the Boltons continued to rule the North, and the Lannisters stayed on the Iron Throne (that seems highly unlikely at this point).

I'm going to be very upset over every minute I ever spent reading a Dany chapter if she does not get her butt to Westeros before this series is over. I don't care about Essos at all, and I don't see the purpose of Dany's story if she doesn't go.

I would be disappointed if Sansa and Sandor don't meet again before the end. I'd like the Starks to reunite, too. I want a lot of people to meet up again before the end. I don't necessarily want it to end with every one of them drinking a toast together or something, but for whatever surviving characters who still want to see each other, I think there should be some reunions.

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Why is it that everyone seems to want a happy ending where everyone is reunited, the bad guys get their comeuppance from the people they victimized, a hero saves the day, etc.??

Because this "super dark and edgy and gritty" crap is done to death anymore?

It's tired. A little gritty and realistic (and dark!) is fine, but when it's just becoming this, it's just a stupid gimmick, a sort of grimdark porn, and frankly kind of cliche these days.

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-Stannis losing to the Boltons, although I don't think that will happen.

-Myrcella and Tommen dying. I think it's a done deal but it sucks.

-Jon turning into a zombie.

-Jeyne Westerling wasn't really switched.

-Aegon's real.

-Any more Starks dying and the Starks never being reunited.

-Dany ruling all Seven Kingdoms in the end.

-Dany and Jon = fornicate myself with a jagged iron stick.

-Any kind of cheap, last-minute "save the day!" crap with Dany and the dragons.

-All three dragons surviving.

-Sansa staying married to Tyrion. -Someone other than Jaime being the valonqar.

-The North not retaining its independence.

-Balon Swann doesn't shove a morningstar up Darkstar's arse.

:lol: :lol:

Perfect post is perfect. I'll just add: -Davos doesnt live happily with his wife and sons the rest of his life :frown5:

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dany unwittingly opening a door to another dimension full of demons, allowing them out and killing her when she demands they serve the "mother of dragons" then they go on to torture everyone else in the series.

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Gods where to start...

Most of all I am dreading a Jon/Dany thing, for oh so many reasons that I won't point out now. Basically if that really happens...well I'd like to refer to the green part in my signature :P

Davos not seeing his wife and sons again before he (inevitably) dies,

Jon being some sort of zombie or UnThing,

the dragons swooping in and saving the day (laaaaame),

Bran staying in the cave with Bloodraven forever,

Arya not meeting Jon again (seriously these two just need to see each other again),

Lightbringer just being a damn sword, and and and...

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Stop Queen Dany hating . . she is awesome . .

Not at ruling Mereen she's not.

I shudder to think at how badly the wheels will fall off if you put her in charge of something more complex, like Westeros.

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Everything's about said and posted. So a tribute to the others:

-Selmy dying. There's been a lot of foreshadowing, but it'll still be sad.

-Gendry, Mya or whichever Robert bastard being relegated to the side.

-Jorah staying in rock bottom.

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Not at ruling Mereen she's not.

I shudder to think at how badly the wheels will fall off if you put her in charge of something more complex, like Westeros.

Westeros is not more complex than Meereen. In fact, Martin's orderly feudal system is actually quite basic compared to the political mess of Meereen.

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I could deal with anything, anything, if only Jon/Dany does not happen. Please.

Stumbling across Darkstar saying "I am of the night" will only just end in bloodshed and tears. On my end.

No re-appearance of Hot Pie.

Arya and Jon never reunite.

Female characters becoming mere background characters or having little to no plot development. This would piss me off A LOT.

Mereen. No more, I beg of you.

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In the end, magic completely disappears from the world

Well, this is really subject for another thread, but just as a short comment: does this story really need magic to work? I think I would pretty much like it equally as a non-magic story about a medieval type of society and it's bloody battles for power in a non-Earth setting. In some things I guess magic adds to the story, but many times it doesn't seem so important, and sometimes it even lessens the credibility of some storylines...

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Well why the hell not a happy ending for once? Downer endings are done to death these days. A happy ending, even a hard-earned and kind of bittersweet one, would be almost revolutionary anymore. It'd certainly be bucking the trend and doing something different. I for one am kind of sick of the doom and gloom obsession. I'm not into painting my nails black and locking myself in my room to play Linkin Park all day. I think a story can be believable and interesting without making me want to hang myself after I finish it.

It's not a happy society: awful things have happened, awful atrocities committed and the mass of the people (that has quite a small role in the story) has suffered horribly while these "noble" families (almost all not that noble at all) are playing their viscious, bloody power games where any knightly virtue is almost only honoured in breach (just like in the real Middle Ages). I don't think a conventional happy ending is remotely possible here. But I would hope that a certain, basic decency could at least partially prevail, people are not all bad, and they can progress. It will be so interesting to see how Martin will play this...

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