Snowy89 Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 That is not a screenshot, it's clearly artwork. The only screenshot is the second one with various groups marching through a town square.No it is a screenshot, just heavily photoshopped.Just look at the details from the soldiers in ships close by and farther away, that's clearly the distance sprites (I believe they're called) jumping into action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted July 6, 2012 Author Share Posted July 6, 2012 No it is a screenshot, just heavily photoshopped.Just look at the details from the soldiers in ships close by and farther away, that's clearly the distance sprites (I believe they're called) jumping into action.LOD (level of detail) sprites, yes. The screenshots have clearly been manipulated a bit, but they're both from the demo mission that was shown at Fezz and no-one's reported any major differences in the quality. Also, based on Shogun 2 with absolutely everything rammed up to the maximum, graphics of that quality are well within the engine's capability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slurktan Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 No it is a screenshot, just heavily photoshopped.Just look at the details from the soldiers in ships close by and farther away, that's clearly the distance sprites (I believe they're called) jumping into action.No. At the very best the first four ships are from the game engine and then put onto a painting with photoshop.Want to know why it's a painting (and conversely why the second is a screenshot)? The smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted July 8, 2012 Author Share Posted July 8, 2012 It does appear to be a 3D image. You can tell as the buildings get further away the ones right at the back (on the hill) take on the low-level details of 3D models at a distance. The way the buildings abut the road going up the hill also takes on that quality.The smoke could be among the elements that are photoshopped in. In previous Total War games getting those many fires burning simultaneously was quite difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slurktan Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 It does appear to be a 3D image. You can tell as the buildings get further away the ones right at the back (on the hill) take on the low-level details of 3D models at a distance. The way the buildings abut the road going up the hill also takes on that quality. So what you are saying is that the details of things are less the further they get away from the "camera's" perspective. Interestingly, do you know where else that happens? Paintings.The smoke could be among the elements that are photoshopped in. In previous Total War games getting those many fires burning simultaneously was quite difficult.The smoke in screenshot 2 is pixellated, the smoke in all the other screen grabs are not. Given that their are other details in screen 2 which definitively point out that it is from a video game engine, the fact that the smoke is not pixelleted in screen 1 points to it being not in the engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted July 8, 2012 Author Share Posted July 8, 2012 So what you are saying is that the details of things are less the further they get away from the "camera's" perspective. Interestingly, do you know where else that happens? Paintings.Wait, paintings have LoD 3D models? Amazing.From the developers:Are these two pictures (here and here) generated by the engine?Yup, both taken from the Siege of Carthage preview battle.* waits for the claim that they are lying * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slurktan Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 Why would they be lying? I've already said it's likely a couple of the ships in pic 1 are taken from the engine. Specifically the two one the front left as they have differing details to all other ships of that make in the picture. Hence Lusted isn't lying.Gullible thy name is Werthead. You have done this every time CA has come out with a new Total War game. You pimp out everything that the developer says as Gospel. You'd think you'd have learned by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoenixFlame Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 *sniff* I don't think my laptop will be able to handle it...curses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxtile Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Awww yeah. I still think that your general shouting "Units, Advance!" and then the thunderous reply from 2000+ legionnaires is the coolest sound ever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talleyrand Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Agreed Jaxtile. That truly was one of the great moments in TW.I've now hunted down an reinstalled Rome and started watching its namesake. I hate the affect this announcement is having on me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What Is Dead Already Died Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Agreed Jaxtile. That truly was one of the great moments in TW.I've now hunted down an reinstalled Rome and started watching its namesake. I hate the affect this announcement is having on meDid the exact same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted July 15, 2012 Author Share Posted July 15, 2012 Gullible thy name is Werthead. You have done this every time CA has come out with a new Total War game. You pimp out everything that the developer says as Gospel. You'd think you'd have learned by now.Yeah, because I'm such a Creative Assembly fanboy :lol:Every time a new TW game is announced I always point out the broken AI of the games in the series, the appalling drop-off in modding capabilities per title and, in some cases, the outrageous bugs. Over the course of the last two games CA have won back some ground with fewer bugs and some moderate improvements in AI (though as many have pointed out, this may be due down to the map in Shogun 2 being smaller and restricting the AI to a few logical tactics). Rome 2 has the potential to be the best game in the series since, well, Rome 1, but CA also have form of spectacularly fucking up. It'll be interesting to see which way this goes.The original question was whether the screenshot was an in-game image or artwork. It's an in-game image with some post-processing done on it. It's not a painting, at all. You were simply wrong to say it was. Man up and admit it rather than calling other people gullible. That's a lame response and beneath you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddington Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I can't decide if the critism they get for the battle map AI is justified or not. When I play a TW game I am mostly trying to work on the world map, and not the battle-map. So I play defensive, try to ensure I select as much as possible the ground I am fighting on, an I try to keep my armies in support of each other.So by the time it comes to fighting, I don't expect the AI to win, just inflict unacceptable casualties. Sometimes I get overwhelmed, but that is generally because of a less than optimal situation on the world map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I can't decide if the critism they get for the battle map AI is justified or not. When I play a TW game I am mostly trying to work on the world map, and not the battle-map. So I play defensive, try to ensure I select as much as possible the ground I am fighting on, an I try to keep my armies in support of each other.So by the time it comes to fighting, I don't expect the AI to win, just inflict unacceptable casualties. Sometimes I get overwhelmed, but that is generally because of a less than optimal situation on the world map.thisamateurs talk tactics, professionals talk logistics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What Is Dead Already Died Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I can't decide if the critism they get for the battle map AI is justified or not. When I play a TW game I am mostly trying to work on the world map, and not the battle-map. So I play defensive, try to ensure I select as much as possible the ground I am fighting on, an I try to keep my armies in support of each other.So by the time it comes to fighting, I don't expect the AI to win, just inflict unacceptable casualties. Sometimes I get overwhelmed, but that is generally because of a less than optimal situation on the world map.Same, always make sure everything is strong, secure, and supported before hitting out again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonblade Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Anybody have any tips on how to install Stainless Steel using Steam? I bought a new computer recently and ever since I haven't even been able to install Kingdoms properly. It's really pissing me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revan Baratheon Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 OMG OMG OMG!!! just wanted to catch up on new developements, had no idea this was up.... man it looks like an epic battle from lotr..and this only pre-alpha coding !!!HAVE TO WAIT TILL LATE 2013 :bang: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTinyKittens Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 That was awesome. My worry is that it'll be hugely difficult to control a battle considering that I'll want to be in unit mode all the time :P maybe they should implement some kind of system where you can issue orders to groups of units without having to oversee them - like a chain of command. Anyway, super excited for this. Upgrading my PC next summer for it in fact :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 That was awesome.My worry is that it'll be hugely difficult to control a battle considering that I'll want to be in unit mode all the time :P maybe they should implement some kind of system where you can issue orders to groups of units without having to oversee them - like a chain of command.Anyway, super excited for this. Upgrading my PC next summer for it in fact :)ah, the old dilemma: to lead from the front or from the back. Every minute you spend fighting is a minute you can't see the big picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revan Baratheon Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Guys are the total war games more CPU intensive or GPU intensive? Cause I got a very good gpu(6850 radeon) but lousy CPU( core 2 duo 2.4 ghz). If my CPU can't keep up with RW2 then it pretty much settles it that ill get a new rig come the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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