Jon's Queen Consort Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 But Jon is not immune to fire like all super duper Targaryens... :P Not to mention that he hasn't got a pet dragon :ph34r:edit: Lyanna despised Roberts infidelities, so no way she would sleep with him. She despised that Robert cheated and she eloped with a cheater. That is so wrong (not what you say WK, Lyanna's behaviour) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbon Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 edit: She despised that Robert cheated and she eloped with a cheater. That is so wrong (not what you say WK, Lyanna's behaviour)The falseness of that argument has been pointed out to you far too many times already. :thumbsdown: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 snip No I am sorry. You have pointed nothing to me, nothing logical anyway. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost's Shadow Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 You may prove to us that Rhaegar, after having taken Lyanna, could still be found regularly in Elia's bed. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manderlay Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 The Baratheon genes are the strongest, especially in Robert, so all his chidren look like him but Jon doesn't, Jon has a stark look, the targaryens cannot say the same for genes, they have purple eyes and silver hair usually but most of the time that's when they marry each other, there have been other houses the trags have married into and they haven't got purple eyes and silver hair, example: Robert Baratheon's grandmother I think was a trag, so steffon should have had silver hair and purple eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of Winters Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Lyanna despised Roberts infidelities, so no way she would sleep with him.Yeah she didn't love him and I think a girl such as Lyanna, being hot blooded, would have fought off Robert. Anyway if Robert had of slept with Lyanna he'd still be saying it years afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvo Attano Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Robert would have legitimised any child he had by Lyanna in two seconds flat.If you're going by the theory that Robert didnt know, he never got a chance to be close to Lyanna or alone with her, they only met a couple of times at tourneys and such like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of Winters Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Robert would have legitimised any child he had by Lyanna in two seconds flat.I'd say one second flat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Gwynhyfvar Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 One word:Timeline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reisz Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Points that have been made a thousand times but not in this particular thread. 1) Why would Ned spend the entirety of book one trying to disprove the legitimacy of Joff, etc. and conveniently forget he had one of Robert's bastards, in his custody, the last 16 or so years?2) Why go out of your way to hide the son of Robert FROM Robert?I've seen this "theory" many times, it is without merit. In order for it to add up, GRRM would basically have to rewrite the entire story. Those who think that the Rhaegar theory is too on the nose are unaware of the fact that many don't catch it. We who discuss it online are a minority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhatIsDeadMayNeverLive Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 The timeline does not add up, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhaenysBee Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 No. Just no. Never ever. Goodness, no. Brr. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darth_druber Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 I agree -- I've always believed Robert to be Jon's true parentage. Thanks for saying it, now I know I'm not alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonSnow4President Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 All of Robert's children have BLACK hair. Jon has Brown Hair. Jon must be Rhaegar's son! :idea: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolves Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 All of Robert's children have BLACK hair. Jon has Brown Hair. Jon must be Rhaegar's son! :idea:Yes!! And ugh Jon is NOT part Baratheon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrewal Halfaxe Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 If Jon was a Baratheon then he could actually be the heir, unlike if he is a Targ. That ought to make some happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Broke Howard Hughes Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 No way. There is no reason for Ned to keep Jon a secret. Plus I believe Robert would have made an attempt to be in Jon's life given he's a product of his and Lyanna's love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candy Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I have always been convinced of this theory as well! I am glad to finally hear others saying it! Jon Snow is definitely a Stark and Baratheon! Which ever theory ends up true...he is a true heir to the throne! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Blizzardborn Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 1) if Robert was Jon's father Ned would not have to lie about it. Robert would have gladly raised the child, legitimized him, and named him heir. He would have called a Great Council to do that before he even took a wife, and might even have remained single to make certain his son with Lyanna would be king after him. 2) Lyanna was missing for at least a year. Jon was born at/near the end of that year. If Robert knew where she was and was making conjugal visits, then there was no reason for him to fight in the war, kill Rhaegar, and hate all Targs post-war. He'd also KNOW there was a chance Lyanna could have had his child and would have asked Ned about it. He already had a few bastards at that point, so he would think of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lannister Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 You might make an argument(though I doubt it's credibility) for Robert and Lyanna sleeping together but not for Jon being Robert's son. Two years passed between her disappearance at Harrenhall and Jon's birth. I doubt the seed is that strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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