Pyrrhus Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 You have a valid point in that actors do not always play book characters as you would envision them being in your imagination....I thought thought that scene was pretty good....it would have made no sense for Stannis to try and spare a bastard child he doesn't know....but he does know it's wrong to kill innocent people....or else he wouldn't have gone to Davos....in the end he knew it was wrong and needed to be talked out of sacraficing Gendry....Stannis is about justice. Gendry, or Edric Storm, it makes little difference. The facts are, Gendry is no traitor, he did not raise an army to oppose Stannis, he did not conspire to keep the Lannisters on the throne. Stannis is about justice, and there is no justice in murdering a young adult. I felt the show's adaptation paled in comparison to the books. But we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calidad Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Stannis wasn't overly likeable in the books at this point either. He was grim, cold, almost emotionally devoid. It wasn't really until he intervened in the battle at the Wall did 'warmer' sides of his character start to show.I think the show is doing a good job in his portrayal thus far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Im With Stannis Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I will NEVER in a million years understand the fandom that surrounds Stannis Baratheon. It really does boggle my mind.BOO!!! I don't think this really ruined his character. He still has internal conflict about burning Gendry, which is why he brought up the subject to him at all. Did Tywin bring up the RW to Tyrion? But if they go through with burning Gendry and veer from the books, I'll throw my computer into my tv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall Tyrion Lannister! Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 BOO!!!I don't think this really ruined his character. He still has internal conflict about burning Gendry, which is why he brought up the subject to him at all. Did Tywin bring up the RW to Tyrion?But if they go through with burning Gendry and veer from the books, I'll throw my computer into my tv.that would suck big time. Davos saving Edric is his best moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mulled Wino Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 The sex scene was stupid. But im beginning to see the light at the end of his story. Ive had to be patient, and as a huge stannis fan ive hated it so far, BUT I understand they cant make his character as complex onscreen. No characters are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannistergold Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I think part of the problem is the actor just not getting who Stannis is supposed to be. The leery expression of his as he talked about the need for the sacrifice made it a lot harder to swallow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mulled Wino Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I think part of the problem is the actor just not getting who Stannis is supposed to be. The leery exp<b></b>ression of his as he talked about the need for the sacrifice made it a lot harder to swallow.I agree here, he definitely hasnt nailed the part by any stretch of the imagination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaitscralt Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Why do I read this forumSame reason as me, because it's funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Lasarte Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I just love the way the term "character assasination" has been popularized between GOT fans, after that infamous column. Cat, Loras, Sansa, Stannis... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Selig Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I just love the way the term "character assasination" has been popularized between GOT fans, after that infamous column. Cat, Loras, Sansa, Stannis... What infamous column? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mondrian Oak Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I just love the way the term "character assasination" has been popularized between GOT fans, after that infamous column. Cat, Loras, Sansa, Stannis...That, and "torture porn", are like the manifesto of aSoIaF book fanatics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrenhal Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Somehow all it seems is that some book-readers are just trying to find flaws to bring all the pointless negativity around the actors and writing of the show and that they are killing the book story and the book characters etc.YES! There is pointless nudity and some other useless stuff instead of epic story telling but still.. but people are kind of missing things out that it is impossible to portray books with 100% accuracy on 10 episode(SEASON) TV-Show with huge cast of actors/characters.Soon all there is some bitching how writing sucks and the hole show sucks. It's sad.. :(Personally I think that Actor who plays Stannis is doing a super great job with the character even if he is really different from the Book Stannis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuriousGeorge Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I just love the way the term "character assasination" has been popularized between GOT fans, after that infamous column. Cat, Loras, Sansa, Stannis...Everyone is singularly determined to believe that D&D are on a personal mission to ruin their favourite character. You would think people could realise they aren't assassinating every character, it's that when you love a character in a novel so much it is not likely that you will equally love a portrayal of him on screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mulled Wino Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 There's going to be a huge turnaround for stannis' character. I can feel it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuriousGeorge Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 That, and "torture porn", are like the manifesto of aSoIaF book fanatics.torture porn, moral greyness, character assassination, mary sue, plot armor yada yada yada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demandred Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I just love the way the term "character assasination" has been popularized between GOT fans, after that infamous column. Cat, Loras, Sansa, Stannis... Was just about to post something similar to this in regards to how often the term "character assassination" seems to be popping. It really loses its luster after the first dozen times, haha. I never warmed to Stannis in the books. He's an interesting character but a lot of people seem to revere him in the fandom for some reason. I don't understand it but I don't begrudge it. I think they've done him justice with the time with the time they have been allotted. The only thing that's bothered me so far was when he was basically grinding against Melisandre when she was leaving Dragonstone but I've otherwise enjoyed what they've done with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaitscralt Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 There's going to be a huge turnaround for stannis' character. I can feel itIt's already started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravi Seaworth Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 torture porn, moral greyness, character assassination, mary sue, plot armor yada yada yadaAdd white-washing to the list. Personally, I have no problem with these discussions, assuming that people are doing it for fun. It is an interesting intellectual exercise to interpret a text in such a thorough way and find every single possible flaw with the adaptation. The real issue, here, is that a lot of people are slightly fanatic about the story in the books, such that, they take these discussions too seriously. This story is above all fiction and there is a world outside. Regarding Stannis, the only point in time where I really started to admire him was after his aid to the Night's Watch and his role in ADoD. Before that, I just respected him. That's why it is too premature to talk about "character assassination". In the show, he has been giving the impression of an ambitious man and slightly more religious than in the books. But this is a perfect opportunity to change viewer's opinions about him once he starts acting as the true Stannis. This is one of the many things that makes ASoIF so interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuriousGeorge Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Add white-washing to the list. Personally, I have no problem with these discussions, assuming that people are doing it for fun. It is an interesting intellectual exercise to interpret a text in such a thorough way and find every single possible flaw with the adaptation. The real issue, here, is that a lot of people are slightly fanatic about the story in the books, such that, they take these discussions too seriously. Regarding Stannis, the only point in time where I really started to admire him was after his aid to the Night's Watch and his role in ADoD. Before that, I just respected him. That's why it is too premature to talk about "character assassination".Yes how could i forget white washing! Don't get the Stannis thing either but then again I don't get any of the people who are committed to one character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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