Jon Weirgaryen Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Hodor has one of the missing swords, the ooooold one with the runes on it... *wink* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 There is a thread in the ADwD subforum which is currently at its fourth iteration.Robett Glover and Theon Durden are the most popular theories at the moment, but I keep insisting it is Davos Seaworth.Davos is supposed to be on a quest to get Rickon from Skagos isn't he? I don't think GRRM would rob us of the story of Rickon's rescue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 As mentioned by an earlier poster.The most intrigueing aspect for me( for this chapter) is the unaccounted for missing sword(s) from the crypt.We know some are with Brans party and we know Osha has one as well. But there isone or more swords, missing and unaccounted for, from the Wintell crypt.The author includes this information because it's going to play an important role later imo.I'll be damn if i'm sure who the hm is or even if it's an aspect of Theon's tenuous grasp on sanity.I don't think I trust Theons thoughts to be any sort of gospel, he seems too ,"one foot in the grave", so to speak?Brandon & Rickard Stark's swords were taken as well as the one Hodor took from an unknown King of Winter. (think these will play, or are already playing into the havoc at Winterfell). I don't think Theon is wrong about the ghosts at Winterfell. I'm not talking about Able & his spearwives either. Those swords are meant to keep the shades of Winterfell in their crypts and prevent them from roaming about Winterfell. Now that several have been taken, you have at least 2 spirits we know are angry, those of Lord Rickard & his son Brandon. They both died tortuous deaths. Brandon in life was known to be quick tempered anyway. The unknown King of Winterfell who's sword was taken could be one of the less amenable Kings. Perhaps the man in the hooded cloak is one of the shades of Winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bemused Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Bran, Osha, Meera and Hodor take the 4 swords ( this was revealed over 2 books, causing a fair amount of confusion, but was eventually settled)... But then ... in the TWoW Theon chapter, Theon is unsure if 4 were missing, or 5 .. GRRM is a devil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alienarea Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Davos is supposed to be on a quest to get Rickon from Skagos isn't he? I don't think GRRM would rob us of the story of Rickon's rescue. Oh well. It's a new year, so once again:- How would Osha pay for passage to Skagos for herself, Rickon and Shaggydog?- How can you feed a direwolf and keep him calm on a ship through rough seas and stay hidden?- Davos as a smuggler will know whom and how to ask for a wildling, a boy and a direwolf- no proof, but I speculate that Rickon and Osha where on that ship that got shipwrecked (because a direwolf got wild?) - Davos will find out quickly about Rickon, and might return Shaggydog's pelt as proof he's dead- He will report to Manderly who is currently at Winterfell- Notice how Manderly conspires with Davos on the privy in White Harbour and how Manderly goes to the privy in Winterfell (everyone goes there so no need to mention it unless it has a purpose- Notice how Davos wants to use a dagger to kill Melisandre and how the Hooded Man reaches for his dagger instinctly- Davos got his fingers shortened as punishment, his reply at Theon showing his fingers indicates Theon's punishment isn't over because he still lives- OOU Davos is a POV and we are currently missing one in WinterfellPS: I started another thread recently where I suggest the Hooded Man might be someone working for Littlefinger. The reasoning for this is:-Littlefinger loves "only Cat" so he might have someone in Winterfell for a long time / from time to time- the whole attempt to murder Bran has been claimed by Joffrey but the dagger was Littlefinger's. Maybe someone gave Joffrey an idea? - Hodor was afraid of someone hiding in the crypts. Who?- someone employed by Littlefinger could get to and into Winterfell without causing suspicion- Littlefinger has Sansa so it is his interest to frame Roose and present a real heir to Winterfell- so for 2015 I'll go with Lothor Brune for Hooded Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assjfjgjsgjljljglgjfjsduar Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Oh well. It's a new year, so once again And it's still as ridiculous in 2015 as it was in 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drth Fel Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 It is a Sith infiltrator who sneaking around Force-choking chickens and slicing off the members of goats to use as noses on snowmen. The Boltons need to protect their ducks when everything goes quackers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppa Chase Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Random crackpot. Dagmer Cleftjaw is the hooded man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drth Fel Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 The HM asked Theon, "Do you want to build a snowman?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Oh well. It's a new year, so once again:- How would Osha pay for passage to Skagos for herself, Rickon and Shaggydog?- How can you feed a direwolf and keep him calm on a ship through rough seas and stay hidden? - How can a young bastard from Pyke manage to track Osha/Rickon/Shaggy without getting noticed? Well, Wyman said that he stayed downwind all the time but when we think about it, are we reallly supposed to buy this? I think the answer is that Rickon/Osha were soon intercepted by the Umber scouts and they took them secretly to White Harbour. Wyman himself sent them secretly on a ship to Widow's Watch and from there they were sent to Skagos. As to why Wyman sent Davos to bring him back, I think he needs to stall him until his schemes to get rid of the Boltons come to a certain level and at the same time he is testing Davos to see what kind of a person he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drth Fel Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Theon then told the hooded man to Let It Go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHouseHB Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 So why doesn't Theon recognize Benjen or the Blackfish when he looks this guy in the eye?Because he is hooded? And Theon's mental state is not exactly what you would call normal at the time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maid So Fair Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 The HM asked Theon, "Do you want to build a snowman?" Is it possible that he suggested that Theon should just Let It Go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drth Fel Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Is it possible that he suggested that Theon should just Let It Go?:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowHeart Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Bran, Osha, Meera and Hodor take the 4 swords ( this was revealed over 2 books, causing a fair amount of confusion, but was eventually settled)... But then ... in the TWoW Theon chapter, Theon is unsure if 4 were missing, or 5 .. GRRM is a devil.Ooh interesting. Unfortunately, I put this down to random Theon babbling at this stage, but that's a nice catch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alienarea Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 And it's still as ridiculous in 2015 as it was in 2014. I love you too, darling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muggle Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share Posted January 29, 2015 HM is Robert Glover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 There is a thread in the ADwD subforum which is currently at its fourth iteration.Robett Glover and Theon Durden are the most popular theories at the moment, but I keep insisting it is Davos Seaworth.I thought Davos went to Skagos to get Rickon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Reaper oOo Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Is it the general belief that the HM is from the North? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrannogXninja Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 It's Alliser Thorne. He has the pink letter and is taking it to the wall. He never went on the ranging Jon Snow ordered him to take Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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