Jô Maltese Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 When you are knighted by Arthur Dayne himself at 15 and when the Barristan Selmy says you're the best natural swordsman he has ever seen, you must have a considerable amount of talent. :agree: Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barristan the G.O.A.T Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Also didn't Jaime claim that only 3 men were stronger than him? That doesn't mean that 3 men could beat him just in terms of physical strength which doesnt take into account speed and skill. If anyone has the quote it would be helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jô Maltese Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Got it:Robert had been stronger than him, to be sure. The White Bull Gerold Hightower as well, in his heyday, and Ser Arthur Dayne. Amongst the living, Greatjon Umber was stronger, Strongboar of Crakehall most likely, both Cleganes for a certainty. (...)It did not matter. With speed and skill, Jaimie could beat them all [apparently this relates only to the living].Also didn't Jaime claim that only 3 men were stronger than him? That doesn't mean that 3 men could beat him just in terms of physical strength which doesnt take into account speed and skill. If anyone has the quote it would be helpful.Next time read the whole thread before whingeing :cool4: ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanTheBold Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Also didn't Jaime claim that only 3 men were stronger than him? That doesn't mean that 3 men could beat him just in terms of physical strength which doesnt take into account speed and skill. If anyone has the quote it would be helpful.No he said 3 men could beat him but in the show he say a handful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LC Jaime Lannister Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 BarristanThe MountainThe Red ViperMy guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordanmp16 Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 where does he say this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jô Maltese Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 where does he say this?He does not say it, he thinks it in aSoS, Chapter Jaime III, when fighting Brienne by the river. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GallowsKnight Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Sandor CleganeBarristan SelmyBlackfish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Greg of House House Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Loras? Are you serious? LOLI don't see Jaime thinking about the Mountain. I mean... If it was at least Sandor...I can see he admitting a possible defeat to Arthur Dayne and Barristan Selmy. Specially because the first is dead and the other old and gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bromley Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I think the line in the show was possibly referring to characters that we've already met with the possible exception of the Red Viper. My guess is that Jaime was reffering to Barristan (old but clearly still feared as his forced retirement scene suggests.), Gregor Clegane(perhaps not as technically skilled as Jaime but does well in tournaments and is a complete monster.), and Oberyn Martell (We have yet to meet him onscreen, but those who have read the books know what he is capable of). As for Jaime's thoughts in his POV chapter in ASOS, I think he was comparing himself to other fighters whom he specifically regards as having superior strength. Brienne is very muscular and Jaime notes that she could overpower him with brute force. Jaime makes a comparison to other fighters like GreatJon who are larger, more physically powerful but not as skilled as he was in his own opinion. Jaime has a hard time coping with the idea that Brienne is a challenging opponent for a guy like him. While he may not have won every battle, or every tourney he participated in, it is clear from his history and his reputation that he was an amazingly talented fighter in his prime. Dayne knighted Jaime himself if I recall, surely this was in honour of the courage and skill he'd shown on the battlefield. It would have been the greatest honour to be knighted by the Sword of the Morning himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gneisenau Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Gregor could beat Jaime, since Gregor is 8 foot tall and wields greatswords with one hand, giving a huge reach advantage. In addition Gregor is pretty fast, accurate (Gregor's lance goes where he wants it to go), and even when mortally wounded by Oberyn, Gregor crushed him with his hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Creighton Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I believe Jaimes claim has changed to 3 men and Tall lady.SelmyThe MountainSandorand Bree beat him.Red Viper was not a Swordsman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evers1295 Posted September 30, 2013 Author Share Posted September 30, 2013 The halfhand against him would have been a good fight, but I doubt Jaime has ever heard of him. If we exclude the red viper for not being a swordsman and victorian for being an axe then it would have to be Barristan, Garlan and someone like the hound I guess. People forget there are certain freeriders and men at arms who prove to be outstanding fighters, such as Lothor Brune, Phillip Foote, Polliver etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GallowsKnight Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Gregor could beat Jaime, since Gregor is 8 foot tall and wields greatswords with one hand, giving a huge reach advantage. In addition Gregor is pretty fast, accurate (Gregor's lance goes where he wants it to go), and even when mortally wounded by Oberyn, Gregor crushed him with his hands. Gregor is described as being slow. Sandor is the large but fast Clegane. Gregor is good at killing, the lance thing was precision/steadiness not speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictarion Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 My guess is Barristan, and the Clegane brothers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Yo of House Lo Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 My guess he meansSer Arthur DayneSer Gerold HightowerSer Barristan Selmy :agree: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaguya Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 GregorBarristanMaybe Robert Baratheon?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorian Martell Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Garlan is a better swordsman than Loras and Ned sucks in fighting.He beat Arthur Dayne in single combat!!!!!!! :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Doe Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Series: Gregor Clegane, Barristan Selmy, either the Hound or Oberyn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTyrion Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Alive at the time: MountainGarlan Selmy You can probably swap Garlan for the Hound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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