hardhome Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 I remember in some thread mentioned that GRRM had confirmed that all "Stark children" of that generation were wargs. Some people have even argued that R+L=J is not denied in this affirmation. But I'm pretty sure that means any children of Brandon's would also be wargs. And I'm pretty sure that Brandon was confirmed to have bastards as well, making them wargs as well. Given GRRM's specific differentiation of wargs from other skinchangers do you think this may play an important role in the story to come, or not. I might be misremembering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoamingRonin Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Brandon Stark, Ned's brother? No, I don't think he had any bastards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterJack Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 I think anyone can be Warg or more specially SkinChangers if you are teached, and having a magical beast at your side is the shortway to wake this power.Stark kids have bonded with their direwolf because they are warg, or the stark kid are warg because they had diewolfs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mountain That Flies Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Where is it confirmed (or even implied in the text) that Brandon Stark had bastards? We know he slept around, but as I recall no mention was made of any kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assjfjgjsgjljljglgjfjsduar Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 I think GRRM said something like Brandon had the opportunity to have had bastards (read: he slept around), but as far as I know he's never said that Brandon actually had any bastards. Opportunity does not mean he fathered any. Found it: It'd be an exaggeration to say that Brandon died before he could have children. It's established in the books that he was no virgin. He could very well have left behind some little Snows in the various places he visited. But what's absolutely clear is that he had no legitimate children. I'm not seeing any real confirmation here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Monkey Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Elia Martell, furious at being cuckolded by her dragon husband, shacked up with Brandon Stark for a wild night and passion. The child born of this union was Jon Snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drogon'sWrath Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 While it's certainly possible that he had bastards, there's no confirmation. However, if he did have any, I doubt they will have any significance to the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fightbringer Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 While it's certainly possible that he had bastards, there's no confirmation. However, if he did have any, I doubt they will have any significance to the story. :agree: This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alienarea Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 And maybe Ramsay Snow is his bastard ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime FTW Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 And maybe Ramsay Snow is his bastard ... False. Ramsay Snow is secret Targaryen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Wolf Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Why did you put that sentence about R+L=J in there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingofSothoryos Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Why did you put that sentence about R+L=J in there?The OP was making a distinction between Stark kids as children of Ned versus child of any Stark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeaselPie Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Robb and Sansa never really showed any strong warg powers (and we don't know much about Rickon), and GRRM said the Stark kid's powers vary wildly. Bran and Arya are full skinchangers (not just warging into wolves). Jon so far has only showed warging powers with Ghost, not other animals...but I do think the whole Varamyr chapter was supposed to teach us something **foreshadowing** I think GRRM was referring to the "current generation" of the Stark children we know about. I don't think it would make sense to throw a warging Brandon bastard into the mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Gwynhyfvar Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 If Brandon had a bastard my money's on Domeric Bolton, who is dead, so being a warg would have no significance. IMO, his role in the plot would be to explain other characters motivations and backstory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 I think anyone can be Warg or more specially SkinChangers if you are teached, and having a magical beast at your side is the shortway to wake this power.Stark kids have bonded with their direwolf because they are warg, or the stark kid are warg because they had diewolfs? The boy looked at the bowl uncertainly. “What is it?”“A paste of weirwood seeds.”Something about the look of it made Bran feel ill. The red veins were only weirwood sap, hesupposed, but in the torchlight they looked remarkably like blood. He dipped the spoon into the paste,then hesitated. “Will this make me a greenseer?”“Your blood makes you a greenseer,” said Lord Brynden. “This will help awaken your gifts andwed you to the trees.” If Brandon had a bastard my money's on Domeric Bolton, who is dead, so being a warg would have no significance. IMO, his role in the plot would be to explain other characters motivations and backstory. I agree with this one. I am suspecting Domeric's talent with riding partially comes from his skinchanging unsconsciously into the horse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 I think anyone can be Warg or more specially SkinChangers if you are teached, and having a magical beast at your side is the shortway to wake this power.Stark kids have bonded with their direwolf because they are warg, or the stark kid are warg because they had diewolfs? According to Bloodraven - “Only one man in a thousand is born a skinchanger” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assjfjgjsgjljljglgjfjsduar Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Yes, it's said that skinchanging is an inherited talent. You're either born one or you're not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeaselPie Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 According to Bloodraven - “Only one man in a thousand is born a skinchanger” This always confuses me. There should be many, many more in that case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommen Beetsbane Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 This always confuses me. There should be many, many more in that case. probs are above the wall where magic is magical and not dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 This always confuses me. There should be many, many more in that case. They are mostly untrained and unaware so their gift is sleeping. And I think the average skinchanging power is much less than the least gifted Stark kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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