Floki of the Ironborn Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Before the story ends, before one of them dies, whatever the case, do you think these two will have an interaction? And if so, what will the context be?It's way too fanciful to imagine Randyll being penitent towards how he treated Sam or being proud of what Sam has accomplished. And while having Randyll die at the hands of his despised son would be a very Tyrion-esque conclusion to that story, I don't see it happening. But having Sam face his father and when a verbal showdown would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambo Shaw Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I can see a scenario where Sam is back at the wall as its Maester. Randyll and the rest of the Small Council/Power-behind-the-throne try to cow Sam on some issue in which they want the Night Watch to take a certain action. Sam has a North-of-the-Wall flashback, grabs an obsidian blade and kills them all…or maybe he just sticks to his guns and gives the LC the advice he believes in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyrion Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Yes, though in a GRRM kind of way. It wont be where Randyll Tarly sees Samwell as completely redeemed in his eyes and regrets sending him off, he will still hate him, just have a grudging respect for him. It'll be a Bittersweet win for Samwell. And I dont see Samwell killing anybody ever again. Other was self defense. George wont do that twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Guy Garlan Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I agree with the OP. A verbal showdown would be fine, something like:Randyll: "Ugh, you were a fat weakling before, and now you even want to wear a chain?"Sam:"Father, for once in your life, shut the fuck up!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisistherevolt Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I'm hoping for a wight-meets-Heartsbane type of meeting. Sam wielding Heartsbane. His father the wight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Not Appearing Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Yep. Oh hell yep.The elder son of Randyl Tarly brought/sent a girl home with "his" male child. It doesn't matter that he already disavowed his birthright or that the child is a bastard... it's a problem Randyl won't abide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Taeser Celtigar Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I think Sam will confront his father again...over Gilly. I think Sam would want Gilly safe in the Tarly castle during the Ironborn attack. Euron is attacking Oldtown... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markg171 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Randyll and Sam meet again, Sam stands up to him over something. Randyll gives Sam a once over and says, "You will never be worthy of being my son, nor inheriting my lands. But you are a man now." And then walks away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilusmagnus Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I expect to see a confrontation, but it wouldn't be something very relevant to the story. Just a parenthesis to conclude this part of Sam's character arc. A scene that would be quite similar to this one : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWT87TXsiDg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForgottenKnight Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I do think it'll happen seeing as he's so close to home now. I would like to see how his brother Dicken is doing. As for meeting his Father, I do hope same does learn some magical power by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Harly of Southwell Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Maester Samwell is the new Measter of the Nights watch when Randyll Tarly takes the black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerevanin Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I think so but I'm afraid it would be pretty cheesy. Like: Sam: "Look, dad, I joined the Night's Watch, I was behind the Wall, I survive attacks by wildings, zombies, rebels, I killed a zombie and I f**ked that girl. Oh and the baby is my bastard."Randyll: "How blind was I! Sam, you are my best son. Sucks for you, Dickon, hand over Heartsbane, Sam deserves it more." To avoid this, I'd prefer Randyll to refuse to acknowledge any of Sam's achievements. I would hurt Sam but eventually he would realize that his dad would never love him and he would become stronger and more independent thanks to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Reaper oOo Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Oh I would love to see Randyll Tarly take the black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prince Of Tatters Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Hoping Randyll gives Heartsbane to Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barri_The_Bold Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Well, Sam is currently in the Reach, studying in Oldtown to forge his links on his maester's chain. That will take him a few years, so I see a possibility of them meeting somewhere along the way. Even more so now that he put Gilly under his mothers protection at Horn Hill. Randyll won't like that and will confront Sam. I wonder if Sam can stand up to his father though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevasTra82 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I think Samwell will end up on the chair of Heartsbane when it's all said and done. GRRM loves to make weak, underachieving characters succeed in the end, and Sam has been slowly built up from a fat, useless NW member to something more prominent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balerion's Whiskers Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Everyone thinks Gilly is going to Horn Hill because that was in the plan...we should know GRRM better than that. Chances are good that the Cinnamon Wind is already under sail for Mereen with Marwyn, Gilly and the babe on board. (and I wouldn't doubt that Gilly is pregnant with Sam's kid for real) But back to the father/son topic. I'm guessing that there will be a meeting between the two and it won't be all smiles and bunnies. Randyl and Dickon may not survive the coming war with the Others because I think Sam will end up with Heartsbane. I don't think Sam will get back to the Wall and chances are, he'll not finish his chain just because there's not enough time in the books. Something makes me think that Westeros as we know it will be forever changed once the story is done. There will probably be a father/son confrontation with Randyl still verbally abusing Sam, but Sam will suck it up and stand up to him. He'll get his father's grudging respect, but Dickon may be the one to give Sam the blade as he's dying himself.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floki of the Ironborn Posted March 27, 2015 Author Share Posted March 27, 2015 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWT87TXsiDg I love this choice of movie scene. So who would be Tuco and who would be Pablo in that hypothetical situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHOSTSTARK Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Maester Samwell is the new Measter of the Nights watch when Randyll Tarly takes the black. yep, Randyll will be sent to the wall and imo he will have a Janos Slynt attitude seeing Sam in a high authority position at the Watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 yep, Randyll will be sent to the wall and imo he will have a Janos Slynt attitude seeing Sam in a high authority position at the Watch. And, like Jon and Slynt, Sam will behead him for insubordination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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