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Is this impression of Serena Williams a form of blackface?


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#1 Addien

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 09:13 PM

If so, is it racist?

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 09:23 PM

I think so, yes. And it was mean as hell. I personally think she should be fined.

It also shows that she's a classless mean girl.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 09:25 PM

Racist? Tits and ass? It's mean, and unsportsmanlike. But not racist. Unless Serena's build is specifically tied to her ethnicity, then it's racist.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 09:27 PM

Color me not sure. [Though I agree the imitator should be fined.]

Edited by sciborg2, 11 December 2012 - 09:28 PM.


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Posted 11 December 2012 - 09:48 PM

Unless Serena's build is specifically tied to her ethnicity, then it's racist.


Which it's not, so it's not racist.

People are too quick to pull the race card, especially about trivial crap like this.

Now if she came out with her face/body painted black while munching on a bucket of fried chicken, yes, that would be racist. However, she's simply making a mockery of Serena in jest, which is simply, as Elder Sister pointed out, classless and mean.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 09:50 PM

It might have been racist, I'm not really sure.

I don't think it was meant to be mean at all though- the players are constantly ripping the piss out of each other and it doesn't usually seem to be taken in a mean way.

My favourite is Djokovic's impressions of Nadal and Sharapova.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 09:54 PM

I think unprofessional, and classless, but not racist. Here she was making fun of Serena's body, not her race. Which is still horrible, but I don't think racist.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 10:02 PM

My favourite is Djokovic's impressions of Nadal and Sharapova.


His Nadal ButtFinger is killing me.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 10:04 PM

I also thought the high-end crowd in the tennis circles were pretty tight. A lot of mocking goes on. Serena has a body with lush curves, nothing at all like Wozniacki's, the padding was exageration of course, but she needed the padding. The question is, are they friends?

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 10:17 PM

But isn't there a trope about AA women and secondary sex characteristics? I mean the Hottentot Venus wasn't a racialized morsel of its time for nothing.

Edited by Addien, 11 December 2012 - 10:31 PM.


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Posted 11 December 2012 - 10:22 PM

What's racist about it?

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 10:33 PM

http://e08.cgpublish.../129/index_html
http://www.brownpape...m/event/256504t

there is a long history of portraying black women as "hypersexualized", which i think is what that little T&A show was getting at. it doesn't emerge from a vacuum.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 10:36 PM

Seriously, have you seen pictures of Serena? A lot of women would kill to have her body,

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 10:41 PM

I think calling this racist is a hell of a stretch.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 10:43 PM

Seriously, have you seen pictures of Serena? A lot of women would kill to have her body,


Whether or not I'd kill to have her body (I would, btw - she has an amazing body) is not the point, the point is a long (racist) history of putting black women into a binary - either the degrading hypersexualized stereotype or the degrading "mammy" stereotype", of which this imitation strikes me as the former

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 10:49 PM

Well, it doesn't strike me that way - if she was going to imitate her friend without enhancing her own body, what was she going to do, paint her face black? Or should Serena just be ignored - Wozniacki has apparently done imitations of a whole bunch of her fellow tennis players - because Serena's black and the others are white? Just leave her out, ignore her because she's black, let the white women do goofy bonding and show how united they are, but not include the black player?

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 11:06 PM

Racist? Tits and ass? It's mean, and unsportsmanlike. But not racist. Unless Serena's build is specifically tied to her ethnicity, then it's racist.


Edit: Addien said it better.

And no, I didn't take this as racist. I took it as one person mocking the body of another, not the body of all black people.

Edited by Castel, 11 December 2012 - 11:08 PM.


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Posted 11 December 2012 - 11:10 PM

I'm gonna with personal, not racist. And apparently the two of them, like a lot of top tennis players, are fairly close friends and all do stuff like this all the time during exhibition matches.

Not a big deal.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 11:10 PM

Edit: Addien said it better.

And no, I didn't take this as racist. I took it as one person mocking the body of another, not the body of all black people.


Reading comprehension fail?

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 11:22 PM

Reading comprehension fail?


What? What have I failed to comprehend?

Edited by Castel, 11 December 2012 - 11:26 PM.