[Spoilers] Rant and Rave without Reprecussions - Season 6 Edition

[SuperMario]

3 minutes ago, ArabellaVidal said:

The logic was soooo real. The Tyrell army should have come into play last season, as a result of Tyrell strategy. But we said that last season. We all wondered why Mace or Olenna (apparently she is the head of House Tyrell and misogynist!Kevan completely accepts this and why was an expensive actor even cast as Mace?) hadn't used their army or threatened to withdraw food supplies to the capital after the imprisonment of their queen and their heir. Really bad writing.

Yeah, what have the small council been doing for the past several months with the faith militant seizing power? Carol comes in and gives a two minute speech and Olenna is already ready to fight. So clearly it didn't take much to get her motivated. I'm assuming Mace would have a similar viewpoint. Yet, as others have said, it takes the Greatest Mom Ever to rally the troops. 

And they are even making her a hero in her hatred of Marge. Carol is the one who put Marge in prison essentially and yet, she is the one who saves her. Only with D&D logic is that possible.

[Mister Stoneheart]

What a waste of Natalie Tena's talents.  Once again a victim is served to Ramsay Sue on a platter.  So tedious.

The Brothraki were in rare form tonight!  Forget a noble and fierce race of nomadic warriors (such as the Mongols)--nope we have frat boy rapists making your-Granny jokes.

Truly tasteless.

[Le Cygne]

15 minutes ago, Alayne's Shadow. said:

Bronze Yohn would bitch slap Show!LF in a minute. Was he just threatened in his own seat? Robin's an idiot, but why would he follow LF blindly? This whole Vale thing is rubbish, all of it. 

Don't mess with Sansa Or she'll shame you into doing what she wants. Is this what they meant by Sansa becoming a leader? Talk about anti-climatic.

Yeah, the whole Vale thing is rubbish, a giant hand wave, mocking Bronze Yohn and Sweetrobin from the books.

And yeah, I figured that's what they meant. She's bossing "weak men" around and they are just making fun of her as usual.

[Le Cygne]

I have an idea what the ale is about, they keep dropping hints with Sandor that way, but if Fansa acts this way with Sandor, I hope he puts her in her place right quick.

Oh yeah, they also went there with the soup. Soup and ale. Like the scene where Sandor said how can a man not keep ale in his home. Where he was the Disney Beast.

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[Ser Quork]

2 hours ago, ArabellaVidal said:

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I think I missed something though. Why was this episode called Book of the Stranger?

 

 

Book of the Stranger to logic

Book of the Stranger to continuity

Book of the Stranger to consistency.

Book of the Stranger to ASoIaF

& so on.

What the showrunners meant by the title though, I cannot help you.

[SuperMario]

5 minutes ago, LazyBazooka said:

And correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought it was part of the Dothraki religion or tradition or whatever that widows of Khals automatically become part of the Dosh Khaleen and are therefore given respect and are off limits no matter what? So they capture her, threaten her with rape, realise she's a widowed Khaleesi, take her to Vaes Dothrak to join the Dosh Khaleen, but then they change their minds and start threatening her with rape again? I thought you couldn't rape because your culture says otherwise? And what happened to not being able to spill blood in Vaes Dothrak? A guy has his head smashed in, blood and gore spilled, and they just shrug it off? What the fuck? And did Daario think that smashing the dude's head would cover their tracks? Did he think that they'd see the headless corpse and not check the rest of the body and see the stab wound? And why didn't Jorah make sure Daario threw his dagger away? Why does everyone have mashed potatoes for brains?

It's because D&D once again forgot what their own previous plots entailed. You cannot spill blood in Vaes Dothrak. Hence the golden crown of Viserys. Yet, that Khal fighter was the one who was beating the shit out of Jorah causing his face to get all BLOODY. Then Super Daario stabs him and kills him. Jorah changes it that you cannot spill blood into you cannot be stabbed, so Super Daario smashes him with a stone. And the Khals waive it off like he just got smashed by a stone.

So D&D did their magic where they present a complete retcon or plot inconsistency and then just make it go away by having a character explain why it is that way. And most Unsullied are too stupid to know otherwise.

[ArabellaVidal]

6 minutes ago, Neds Secret said:

Jons a "weak man" Babs is used to strong, realistic men like Wamsay Stu and Batfinger, Babs eats up weak men for Breakfast same as the Brute!

If she had at least tried to manage Ramsay before they married in the same way, it would have been a good scene. Obviously he's brilliant and so would not have been manipulated but at least in the illogic of the situation this would have been the way to go instead of the eye-rolling sulkiness last season.

As for Jon, he's completely clueless about how he should do anything since he was resurrected. It's pathetic. He's just intent on abandoning the Watch for... no reason except for not wanting to be there anymore. If he had said something like, I'm going to look for Bran and Rickon, it would have been un-stupid at least. But the whole, I'm-going-south was beyond dumb. Why did he need Sansa or Ramsay to tell him to rescue his brother?

[Gabriele]

1 minute ago, Le Cygne said:

I have an idea what the ale is about, they keep dropping hints with Sandor that way, but if Fansa acts this way with Sandor, I hope he puts her in her place right quick.

I'm afraid he won't be Sandor, not with D&D changing every character in the books. Fandor, more likely. 

[Le Cygne]

Just now, Gabriele said:

I'm afraid he won't be Sandor, not with D&D changing every character in the books. Fandor, more likely. 

NOOOOOOOO! Oh, please no. I would rather see him fight his dead brother's corpse than grovel to Fansa.

[Tijgy]

For people (like me) who refused to watch *** of GoT but still want to know what happened: 

http://www.fandomfollowing.com/for-the-notwatch-game-of-thrones-6x04-recap/

[The_half_fan]

If you need a reminder of how good the show used to be instead of this half-baked misogyny. I forget which season this is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwQAZ7_SjgU

 

[Toth]

And here I go again, Toth's notes of thrones. But as a pleasant surprise my recorder crashed and missed the last ten minutes. So I guess I have to resort to hearsay when it comes to judging that hot mess there, because I haven't seen it with my own eyes.

Episode 4

- so, here we again with our most recent oathbreaker. Must have been kind of embarrassing after his dramatic exit through the front gate to turn around and come back to get his stuff

- good question, Edd! And it adds salt into the injury that the show has Jon in complete ignorance of his sister’s fate. Heck, even Arya implied that she knew of Jon’s death through telepathy, but he has no idea what is happening in Winterfell?

- nice writing. Whenever someone points something out that makes no sense, interrupt him through something completely unrelated...

- yay, family reunion of those siblings who were the most distant to each other. Not that I can’t picture them being happy to see each other after all the shit they went through. But I just can’t stop thinking about how clumsy the whole setting of this is. Jon breaking his vow and dramatically leaving in the last episode, now everyone in the NW must be startled to see such a scene.

- so this is this infamous “boss ass bitch Sansa” Turner referenced in her interviews. Well... I’m not entirely sure why they even have to argument. Jon being sick of fighting is kinda understandable, but he should have pointed out the fucking army of dead marching south. Especially since it would be beneficial to have someone controlling the North who takes something like this serious.

- oh, here are the best friends Davos and Melisandre again... and finally Davos addresses the elephant in the living room! Took them bloody long enough and doesn’t excuse the bullshit that was his non-existent motivation in the last couple of episodes

- oh god the brute... she looks like she’s about to split Davos in half. Why? And why the fuck does she know Davos of all people? And since when do the Ds address the elephants in the living room, only for all the characters to shrug and walk away? What the fuck was Brienne trying to accomplish by walking up to them, boasting with having killed Stannis and threatening to kill them? If we had heard any rumors about the Red Woman getting to Brienne’s ears I could understand her beef. But the way it was framed, Meli-sans-bra looked neither red, nor menacingly powerful and Brienne looked more like she was bullying Davos instead. What did I just see?

- she was even walking up to them with her sword drawn... for fuck’s sake...

- good ol’ ‘uncle Petyr’. Talk about characters that at least are consistently 180° mirrors of their book counterparts. Poor Robin...

- really, everybody should think that Dany pranks them by letting the slavers treat with Tyrion, but now they are ‘his dragons’. There can be no denying anymore that he has successfully taken over Dany’s plotline

- okay, so.. do I get this straight? Tyrion’s plan to avoid open war with these cities is by making ridiculous demands Meereen isn’t able to enforce and then sex workers? The fuck was that? How can anybody even pretend this is going to work? And why did the ambassadors complied with it just like that?

- great, so Irri doesn’t need to do her job. More time for Tyrion!

- oh god she’s quoting the Sue...

- I’m not sure why they make so much fuzz about the whole “ALL SLAVERY BANNED FOREVER” thing. It was Dany’s goal. And nobody can force those cities to abandon their ways through either sword or hookers. That’s what we took from the books and that’s what Saint Tyrion even recognizes when he says the entire bay’s economy depends on it.

- I admit, I spaced out during the bro-trip. Did anything worthwhile happened?

- but I sure see how similar this is to Larry and Bronn last season. Everything in Vaes Dothrak oozes otherness, it’s a dangerous oriental place for two white dudes having adventures in. Why the fuck didn’t they just enter through the front door? Why all this pointless sneaking? Within Vaes Dothrak the Dothraki should be relatively reasonable towards strangers, so there is no point for their nightly mission

- there goes my saying Dothraki are reasonable. The heck was this fight scene about?

- there goes the ‘no spilling of blood within Vaes Dothrak’ thing. Shall I point out how Drogo was only able to get away with his literal metaphor because Viserys was breaking those laws left and right?

- I’m still not over the fact that Ds included this tidbit of the manfolk deciding the fate of the Dosh Khaleen instead of the other way around. Well, what can you expect from brodudes?

- at least it wasn’t Jorah who kept her in that grip. Would have been quite awkward afterwards.

- is this episode still not fucking over?

- Loras saying he never was strong... oh for Christ’s sake. Where is that splendid knight from season 1?

- you see, the major difference between the first season and this one, is that none of these conversations drive any real plot. As in: pieces move into place to attack each other. Here it’s just people babbling stuff to say whose side they are on now. It’s all about how people like each other or not, not about any distinct ambitions that actually shapes their stance towards each other. It is just shallow rambling, nothing at all.

- but to say for once something good about this whole Carol’s Landing Plot: At last they stop with their script-related lethargy and realized they could have crushed the show’s version of the sparrows quite easily and now attempt to do exactly that. It doesn’t excuse how they ‘took over’ this city and everybody behaved like an idiot to make that happen, but now at least they try to fix it in a move that sounds at least a little realistic.

- even though I find it weird that Carol is still under arrest and that Tommen himself doesn’t have anything to do with that plan (and even is implied to oppose it by default) despite his whole ‘I want to man up’ nonsense from last episode. Damn rotating character motivations...

- Pyke... so people are beaming again? Really? I could write an essay about how nonsensical it is that Theon as a crippled, tortured guy with only the clothes on his back somehow made it from Winterfell to wherever to get a ship to get the islands the North is currently at war with. My head hurts from so much plot convenience...

- and of course he just walks into the castle like that’s something you can just do...

- “Why did you come here?” GOOD FUCKING QUESTION, YARA! I don’t know and Theon sure as hell doesn’t know either.

- Where is that Asha glimpse we had seen in the first episode? Was she pushed down the cliff as well? I can’t grasp why anyone could think it to be reasonable to make Yara suspecting this miserable pile of bones to have killed Baelon and trying to get their fucking ‘Salt Throne’ (blergh). She should be happy he escaped, brought him up to date of what happened and then asked him where he stands in regards to opposing Euron.

- stop speaking trope, you idiot.

- longing shot of Ramsay flaying an apple. Or for crying out loud.

- at least no rape. Even though... ugh... how pointless everything is...

- why is this episode not already fucking over? Why does it drag on and on forever?

- yay, only 2000 thousand wildlings... and they make it sound (again) like that in war numbers are the only stuff that matters. Not anything boring like tactics or something

- oh god, I literally cringe when they make Sansa prop up Jon as the rallying point for the North when in fact she herself is far better suited for the job. But considering that the entire North seems to consist of dickheads who don’t care for the Starks...

- and now the recorder hangs itself up. I should be angry that I obviously lost the last 10 minutes of the episode, but... I’m actually glad it is over for me and I can spend my time with something more enjoyable. I hope I haven’t missed anything too atrocious to comment on (even though I’m pretty sure I did - the episode needs some last shocking swerve after all)

[LongRider]

6 minutes ago, Gabriele said:

I'm afraid he won't be Sandor, not with D&D changing every character in the books. Fandor, more likely. 

 

5 minutes ago, Le Cygne said:

NOOOOOOOO! Oh, please no. I would rather see him fight his dead brother's corpse than grovel to Fansa.

Now Fandor, please just no. 

[Gabriele]

5 minutes ago, Tijgy said:

For people (like me) who refused to watch *** of GoT but still want to know what happened: 

http://www.fandomfollowing.com/for-the-notwatch-game-of-thrones-6x04-recap/

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WHA– IS THAT– IS SANSA SMILING??? Holy shit I forgot she had teeth!

[Cas Stark]

How is Emo Jon going to rally an army?  Oh, I guess Empowered Sansa will do it, dragging the emo dude along behind her.  Maybe she can fight Ramsay herself 1/1 and gouge his eyes out like her sister did.  You know, parallelism or some shit.

[OldGimletEye]

13 minutes ago, Ser Quork said:

Book of the Stranger to logic

Book of the Stranger to continuity

Book of the Stranger to consistency.

Book of the Stranger to ASoIaF

& so on.

What the showrunners meant by the title though, I cannot help you.

[OldGimletEye]

5 minutes ago, LongRider said:

 

Now Fandor, please just no. 

FanFan, anyone?

[Le Cygne]

According to EWwwwww, there will be sibling rivalry between Jon and Fansa. Praise god, I guess that means Jon remembers he has a spine.

And then there's the hint with Maisie that Jon and Arya have a special connection. And Fansa with the soup and ale hint that is all about Sandor as the Disney Beast.

Arya and Sandor are gonna bust up the faux heartwarming bullshit with some kickass.

[Gabriele]

5 minutes ago, LongRider said:

 

Now Fandor, please just no. 

I can understand your concern, but please don't come run crying to mommy when they botchered his character in the next episode. I have NO illusions left about that show.  

[Liver and Onions]

Quick question- did Dany burn all the Khals' bloodriders too? Because aren't they supposed to die protecting their respective khals, and failing that they live only long enough to take revenge? I'd maybe buy that some of the bloodriders might be too intimidated by Drogon to make a direct attack (but surely some would try then and there), but when it's just her? 

Were there really four episodes of Dany putting up with rape threats before she gets to burn them? That makes it all okay, doesn't it? Just like Sansa getting her revenge?

(Answer- No. No, it doesn't.)