Werthead Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 That's certainly a strong possibility for this year and maybe going forwards. I also have Wolf Hall (and its sequel) on the TBR pile, which I've been meaning to get to for years, amongst a few other historicals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearly Headless Ned Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Ross Leckie for his take on the second Punic War with Hannibal, Scipio and Carthage, also Robert Nye's The Life And Death Of My Lord Gilles De Rais are worth considering if you enjoy WH.Much higher quality than your average Simon Scarrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seli Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 For a Campbell Benjanun Sriduangkaew is worth looking at, based on a handful of short stories especially Silent Bridge, Pale Cascade in Clarkesworld . For fancast the Verity! podcast is interesting as well. Discussing Doctor Who in an intelligible way has to be worth something. Of course some the podcasters are well connected to the whole sf community in other roles as well. ETA: Now I have to think about how serious I am, but Asterix and the Picts is eligible in the graphic novel category. Of course computer games are also eligible in the dramatic presentation categories, although I cannot think of a good candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 My nominations: Best NovelThe Adjacent - Christopher Priest - GollanczAncillary Justice - Anne Leckie - OrbitRiver of Stars - Guy Gavriel Kay - RocShattered Pillars - Elizabeth Bear - TorThe Wheel of Time - Robert Jordan & Brandon Sanderson - Tor Best NovellaThe Princess and the Queen - George R.R. Martin - TorThen Will the Great Ocean Wash Above - Ian Sales - Whippleshield Books Best Related WorkAdventures with the Wife in Space - Neil Perryman - Faber and Faber Best Graphic StoryThe First Law - Joe Abercrombie, Chuck Dixon, Andie Tong - Blind Ferret BooksMeathouse Man - George R.R. Martin, Raya Golden - Jet City Comics Best Dramatic Presentation (Long Form)Orphan Black (Season 1) - Graeme Manson, John Fawcett - BBC America, Temple Street ProductionsLes Revenants (The Returned) (Season 1) - Fabrice Gobert - Canal+, Haut et CourtGame of Thrones (Season 3) - George R.R. Martin, David Benioff, D.B. Weiss - HBOPacific Rim - Guillermo Del Toro - Legendary Pictures, Warner BrothersGravity - Alfonso Cuaron - Warner Brothers Best Dramatic Presentation (Short Form)Orphan Black: Natural Selection - Graeme Manson, John Fawcett - BBC America, Temple Street ProductionsGame of Thrones: The Rains of Castamere - George R.R. Martin, David Benioff, D.B. Weiss, David Nutter - HBOAn Adventure in Space and Time - Mark Gatiss, Terry McDonough - BBC Best Editor (Short Form)Gardner Dozois Best Edtior (Long Form)Simon Spanton Best Professional ArtistBenjamin CarreStephen MartiniereAlan Lee Best FanzineA Dribble of Ink - Aidan MoherThe Speculative Scotsman - Niall AlexanderPornokitsch - Jared Shurin, Anne C. Perry Best Fan WriterAidan MoherNiall AlexanderJared Shurin The John W. Campbell AwardLeigh Bardugo - First novel published in 2012Helene Wecker - First novel published in 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 And for the 1939 Retro Hugos: Best NovelThe Hobbit - J.R.R. Tolkien - George Allen and UnwinThe Sword in the Stone - T.H. White - CollinsOut of the Silent Planet - C.S. Lewis - John Lane Best Short StoryHow We Went to Mars - Arthur C. Clarke - Amateur Science Stories Best Dramatic Presentation (Long Form)The War of the Worlds - H.G. Wells, Orson Welles - Mercury Theatre on the AirSnow White and the Seven Dwarfs - Walt Disney, Disney Studios - Disney Studios Best Editor (Short Form)John W. Campbell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Interesting. Apparently Gravity is short enough at exacty 90 minutes that it can go in Short Form. If you really don't want Doctor Who to win this year, that's your best bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceChampion Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Interesting. Apparently Gravity is short enough at exacty 90 minutes that it can go in Short Form. If you really don't want Doctor Who to win this year, that's your best bet. IMDB lists it as 91 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 IMDB lists it as 91 minutes. The 90 minute rule has a 20% 'flexibility' rule, so as long as it's under 108 minutes, it's still applicable. I don't think it will happen though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sci-2 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Tor had an interesting article up entitled, How You Ruined the Hugos, in which the merits of a popular vote for critical award are discussed. I thought Adam Roberts made an interesting point about authors summoning their fandom to influence the vote though he - like Scalzi rebuts - is possibly (probably?) exaggerating the effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Moody Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Guardian columnist Damien G. Walter comments derisively on the possibility of The Wheel of Time being nominated for a Hugo. I don't happen to think the series is award-worthy myself (neither is much of what actually gets the Hugo, of course), but Walter's argument is not great, as Wert has pointed out in the comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Selig Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 A really bad article. WoT is a single story so it should be eligible. The LOTR similarities are gone after the first volume. After Redshirts and all the other mediocre or plain terrible novels winning or getting nominated lately, WoT for all its faults be above the average level of nominees in the last few years. Would I vote for it? Of course not, but I'd much rather see it nominated than mediocre novels nobody will remember in 5 years like Redshirts or Bujold's latest Vor novels where it's obvious she's run out of ideas for the setting and the only reason they get nominated is because the Hugo voters really love the series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Haha, I'm reading through the comments on that article right now. Wert is, to use internet lingo ,pwning dem like n00bs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seli Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Guardian columnist Damien G. Walter comments derisively on the possibility of The Wheel of Time being nominated for a Hugo. I don't happen to think the series is award-worthy myself (neither is much of what actually gets the Hugo, of course), but Walter's argument is not great, as Wert has pointed out in the comments. Damien should know by now there are no Hugo judges. He is just trolling at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I nominated it, and would like to see it on the shortlist. I don't think it will win, and would much prefer The Adjacent to win, but I wouldn't be too offended if it did win. Ancillary Justice winning would be cool and all, but it feels like very safe and 'very Hugo' winner, not to mention that although I liked it it did have a few flaws that the sequel (still due this year, I believe) might improve on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angalin Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 I just got the LonCon email reminder about Hugo nominations. Any further thoughts before I fill in my ballot, fellow readers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edda van Heefmstra Ruston Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Hugo_recommend on LiveJournal has a number of suggestions. For me personally, I will most likely be including "The Lady Astronaut of Mars"*, Orphan Black, the Wasp Factory opera**, Leigh Bardugo for Campbell, Love is the Law, and I'm not sure what else, plus the regular suspects (GoT, individual eps). I really need to go back through my reading list and see what I covered in 2013.*You may have heard about Kowal's audio recording of this being ruled ineligible as a novelette last year, and considered a dramatic presentation instead, where it didn't have enough votes to make the ballot. I just read that it is definitely, 100% eligible as a novelette this year. I really enjoyed it, so would like to see it on the short list.**Yes, it really exists. And no, thehugoawards.com specifically says that an item does not have to be released on film or DVD to be considered a dramatic presentation. I'm unsure whether it needs to be recorded in some fashion (film/DVD/electronically) and distributed, but I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seli Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 **Yes, it really exists. And no, thehugoawards.com specifically says that an item does not have to be released on film or DVD to be considered a dramatic presentation. I'm unsure whether it needs to be recorded in some fashion (film/DVD/electronically) and distributed, but I don't think so. They did have an acceptance speech and a youtube short on recent ballots, and I don't think they've tinkered with the rules. eta: although a filk CD got onto "Best Related Work", which might make some sense depending where on the recursive scale one stops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 I haven't pushed it enough and it doesn't seem to have any traction at all, but I'd love to see Adventures with the Wife in Space nominated for the best related work. It's actually quite a nice book about fandom, the relationship between geeks and non-geeks (and how such relationships work) and a whole host of fandom-related issues, including some face-palmingly embarrassing moments at conventions that I think every SFF fan can relate to. It's about Doctor Who, but oddly the book de-emphasises that aspect and is applicable to any fandom, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felice Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 thehugoawards.com specifically says that an item does not have to be released on film or DVD to be considered a dramatic presentation. I'm unsure whether it needs to be recorded in some fashion (film/DVD/electronically) and distributed, but I don't think so.Hard for people to vote for it if they have no way to access it in order to evaluate its merits, though. And does it count as SF anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edda van Heefmstra Ruston Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Yeah, that (the live nature of it) is why I'm not sure whether it truly qualifies or not. OTOH, if a film adaptation of a spec fic book is considered eligible as SF, I don't see why a musical/stage adaptation wouldn't count, so I don't see that as an obstacle. ETA: I should be very clear that I can't imagine that there are ever going to be enough votes for this to be an issue, particularly for Wasp Factory. I just like trying to nominate things that aren't TV shows, particularly Dr Who (only because it tends to be so heavily represented already). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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