The Wolf Maid Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Ran, you have no idea how many people get raped in this series. I could probably spend a months worth of QotD's on that alone. Hmm, now thats an interesting idea. I remember mentioning back in GK4 that a friend of mine complained that TG had a sex scene (whether consensual or not) in every book. And the Mad Moose said quoting them all would take more than a week. That is a lot of badly written sex scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Hetz Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 COME ON FOLKS, GROUP EFFORT! Add on to what Agulla and I have started! Hissing, hackles lifting, the chicken's head rose. Arya pulled back. Its claws digging into stiff dead flesh, the chicken slowly turned to face her. It cocked its head, making its comb flop, its wattles sway. Arya decided that the chicken was stupid. There wasn't enough light, and besides, the side of its beak was covered with gore, so she couldn't tell if it had the dark spot, But she didn't need to see it. "Valar morghulis" she prayed under her breath. The bird let out a slow chicken cackle. It sounded like a chicken, but in her heart she knew it wasn't. In that instant, she completely understood the concept of a chicken that was not a chicken. This looked like a chicken, like most of the Mud People's chickens. But this was no chicken. This was evil manifest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moshe Goldberg Rubinshteyn Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 What's that gonna be? If GRRM wrote SoT? No way, he wouldn't write such dreck. It sounds more like SoT with GRRM's characters but still written by TG. In that case let me add the following: Sam the Slayer laughed, the Others laughed, everybody laughed... A fat pink mast was rising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xray the Enforcer Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Wizards First Rule: "Stick them with the pointy end." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watcher Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 This is how Terry distinguishes good from evil in this series (apparently). In his interviews he claims rape and murder or the two worse things you can do to a person. His theory is that it takes all of a person’s freedom away. On the face of it that’s a good theory. Unfortunately, Terry is about as subtle as a 10 pound mallet to the forehead, so what starts as a good concept is overused and just becomes a mockery of itself. I'm a huge fan of this series, but I think we might need to inject something fresh and new into it. Do tell Thomas. I’m interesting to know your reason. I promise I won’t attack you’re reasons (much). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zadok Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 i think he means he's a fan of this series of threads, not the books themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxom 1974 Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 I'm a huge fan of this series, but I think we might need to inject something fresh and new into it. (much). You mean something new? Like an author? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrim Fox Cauthon Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Or a chimpanzee with a typewriter. Either would be an improvement. Hell, I think I'd even take Ayn Rand writing Gookind over Goodkind writing Goodkind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosicus Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Yes, but she was a nymphomaniac. It's OK if she likes it. What series is this and where can I find it? You mean something new? Like an author? No, like Phantom!! Coming soon to the fantasy section of your local bookstore. And yes, I'm buying it as soon as it comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxom 1974 Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 No, like Phantom!! Coming soon to the fantasy section of your local bookstore. And yes, I'm buying it as soon as it comes out. Sheesh...perpetuate a cycle what dontcha? And it's not the "fantasy section of the bookstore" it's the section where objectivity rises things above the other petty "works" that share the shelf space... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14th Dragon Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Yes, but she was a nymphomaniac. It's OK if she likes it. Actually she was not a nymphomaniac. She had refused any sexual advances until that point. Later she married the man she hated and slept with him for punishment, then sold her body to get him a big contract. But the only time she enjoyed sex was with the hero and when he was dominating with her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerraPrime Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Actually she was not a nymphomaniac. She had refused any sexual advances until that point. Later she married the man she hated and slept with him for punishment, then sold her body to get him a big contract. But the only time she enjoyed sex was with the hero and when he was dominating with her. *vomits* And why aren't Rand's books categorically panned and ostracized? Wait, don't answer that. No wonder one of the biggest assholes I've ever come across on line is an Ayn Rand follower (no, not MyStar - he doesn't hold a candle to the person I have in mind). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosicus Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 No wonder one of the biggest assholes I've ever come across on line is an Ayn Rand follower (no, not MyStar - he doesn't hold a candle to the person I have in mind). Now that has to be one of the most intriguing things I've read here in quite some time. Wait, it's not me is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diabloblanco18 Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Actually she was not a nymphomaniac. She had refused any sexual advances until that point. Later she married the man she hated and slept with him for punishment, then sold her body to get him a big contract. But the only time she enjoyed sex was with the hero and when he was dominating with her. "You're a very special person, Howard Roark." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolf Maid Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Which I find a bit strange actually. For all those that have read the fountianhead. The "heroine" is raped by the "hero" shortly after they first meet. Yet end up completely in love with one another. Can this be called a really, really, twisted case of Stockholm syndrome? Actually she was not a nymphomaniac. She had refused any sexual advances until that point. Later she married the man she hated and slept with him for punishment, then sold her body to get him a big contract. But the only time she enjoyed sex was with the hero and when he was dominating with her. Sounds like whoever wrote this have been watching a LOT of hentai anime...or japanese porn. This is the fountainhead, by Ayn Rand, right? It's disturbing to know that there's a movie based on the book, and that the book was favorite in the American armed forces during WWII: The Fountainhead (the movie): http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0041386/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinDonner Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 How about this: Jon faced the Wildling horde with a sinking elation. His manly, masculine muscles rippled beneath his Night's Watch outfit. Rattleshirt stepped forward, his eyes narrowing with a hatred of all things good and pure. "You have killed the eagle that is not an eagle, and now we will kill you!" He cackled evilly, and his hordes began to advance menacingly. Jon's mind raced. Qhorin Halfhand had told him to do anything, anything at all to get out of this alive. And he knew that his own life was of utmost importance. He would choose Life, not the Death offered by these fiends. His thing began to rise, and he suddenly thought of a plan. His eyes sped across the enemy line and grabbed hold of the leader's. "Wait! I will kill the half-handed one, then you shall know me for a friend!". He turned to Qhorin, and gave a wink. Qhorin nodded slowly; he knew that Jon's decision was the right one. "Go ahead, bastard!" he spat. Richard, er, Jon drew his bastard sword and raised it high. "Blade, be true!" he cried, and brought it down with a mighty swoosh, cleaving Qhorin into two equal halves. Rattleshirt gasped, and stepped back, awed by this display of sheer power. "The last person to call me a bastard was my sister. And I kicked her in the jaw." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14th Dragon Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Can this be called a really, really, twisted case of Stockholm syndrome? Sounds like whoever wrote this have been watching a LOT of hentai anime...or japanese porn. This is the fountainhead, by Ayn Rand, right? It's disturbing to know that there's a movie based on the book, and that the book was favorite in the American armed forces during WWII: The Fountainhead (the movie): http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0041386/ To be fair, the love story in the book is really twisted, but not really the central theme. It centers primarily on being true to ones self. Which is not in and of tiself a bad messsage. But it goes into some very wierd places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosicus Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Nice Mindonner, but Richard would never have done that. Once his thing started to rise he'd kill Rattleshirt and all the wildlings before most of them would have the chance to draw a weapon. *Jon laughed, the Halfhand laughed, Ghost laughed, all the men of the Nights Watch laughed* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolf Maid Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 It centers primarily on being true to ones self. Which is not in and of tiself a bad messsage. But it goes into some very wierd places. Very weird places indeed. "The last person to call me a bastard was my sister. And I kicked her in the jaw." Poor Sansa! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14th Dragon Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Nice Mindonner, but Richard would never have done that. Once his thing started to rise he'd kill Rattleshirt and all the wildlings before most of them would have the chance to draw a weapon. *Jon laughed, the Halfhand laughed, Ghost laughed, all the men of the Nights Watch laughed* Except for Ygritte who would have realized the error of her ways after seeing the rising of the thing in action. Thus bonding her to the rightous for the rest of her days. Very weird places indeed. It is proably very wrong of me, but I was most disturbed by Roark deciding to burn down a building he designed because they did not build it the way he wanted it done. But I could not buy into the notion that the entire assembled community of archtects was closed minded to the point that they could not grasp vastly superior designs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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