Stormlandian Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 E1: Ellaria arrives at Dorne with Oberyn's remains, we are introduced to Doran. The funeral is held and the Sand Snakes make a scene- trying to convince Doran to take revenge.E3: Arianne sees Quentyn and Doran plotting, confronts Quentyn- he says he's leaving Sunspear. Angrily, she finds the Sand Snakes and tell them that they need to make a move on their own, suggesting Myrcella. A Myrcella/Trystane scene (playing cyvasse?) with Arys Oakheart guarding them- Arianne barges in and asks to speak with Oakheart. They bang and she tells him about the Dance of the Dragons, convincing him to be the Queenmaker. Later, Doran is informed that Myrcella is gone along with Arianne, the Sand Snakes and Oakheart. I love the idea of using Ellaria, a character already introduced, to connect the show-only viewers to the Dornish storyline. Adding Oberyn's remains is a nice touch too. I also like the idea of including the Sand Snakes in the Myrcella plot. It helps cut back on the number of new, unimportant characters. and to stay on topic, I think Spain would be a WONDERFUL venue to help depict this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyful Union Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Damn. Well, hopefully the amount of Dorne will be kept to a minimum. Fingers crossed for Aegon and the Iron Islands being cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerArthurHeath Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Damn. Well, hopefully the amount of Dorne will be kept to a minimum. Fingers crossed for Aegon and the Iron Islands being cut.And I'll cross more for Aegon's inclusion and Dorne to be in full :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickStormborn Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Damn. Well, hopefully the amount of Dorne will be kept to a minimum. Fingers crossed for Aegon and the Iron Islands being cut. I understand thinking they could cut the Iron Islands (most of what they contribute could be off-screen), but I don't understand how anyone could read ADwD and think that Dorne and Aegon are of little significance. They're HUGELY important - far moreso than the Lannisters or the Tyrells now. And really, why would they even cut him? He's mostly in Tyrion's scenes, and they're obviously going to continue giving Dinklage a lot of screentime, so it works out fine. Then he has, what, an extra two scenes (meeting the Golden Company and invading Griffin's Roost)? So please tell me what they have to gain by cutting him. Seriously, cutting Aegon would be like cutting Renly. It's a terrible suggestion, and luckily it won't happen - there would be no point having Varys or the Dornish characters around if Aegon was ultimately expendable... and that scene between Varys and Oberyn in the throne room was clear foreshadowing of Aegon's arrival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boojam Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Damn. Well, hopefully the amount of Dorne will be kept to a minimum. Fingers crossed for Aegon and the Iron Islands being cut. That only leaves The Wall, Braavos (which is the part I like best) and a ton of Essos stuff Dany's stuff (which needs a whole lot of invention), Tryion's Traveloge, which I think will be condensed. aI agree about Aegon , Geroge is now just too indulgent to his whims of 'writeing to the last Kitchen Sink', he needs to pare the story ond converge arcs. Since almost nothing, for me, happens at KL, adding Dorne is fine with me. The Ironborn are about the only SPICE left in the in terms of wacho story telling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boojam Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Seriously, cutting Aegon would be like cutting Renly. It's a terrible suggestion, and luckily it won't happen - there would be no point having Varys or the Dornish characters around if Aegon was ultimately expendable... and that scene between Varys and Oberyn in the throne room was clear foreshadowing of Aegon's arrival. When reading the books I hoped Renly's story would be that he would side with his brother but be killed at the Blackwater. That side story was a closed loop that went nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerArthurHeath Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 When reading the books I hoped Renly's story would be that he would side with his brother but be killed at the Blackwater.That side story was a closed loop that went nowhere.Except driving the Tyrells to the Lannisters, cementing Mel's powers, setting up Brienne's arc, preventing Robb from joining with the Baratheons, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickStormborn Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 When reading the books I hoped Renly's story would be that he would side with his brother but be killed at the Blackwater.That side story was a closed loop that went nowhere. SerArthurHeath has already shown why you're wrong, but one crucial result of Renly's death was its effect on Stannis: not only is he physically weaker from the blood magic, he is morally weaker as a kinslayer, something that continues to haunt him and will no doubt play a role in the conclusion of his arc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Careful on spoilers, folks. Use spoiler protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis' shadow babies Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 I just read on a local newspaper that confirms HBO's GOT team was in Almeria "some months ago" looking for locations. It mentions Almeria being suitable for places related to Daenerys and of course, Dorne (it's the woman in charge of the Culture Dept of Almeria who says this). The report also says they've been looking out in other countries as well, and that it's not decided if it's going to be in Spain yet. Anyway, I hope so! http://www.ideal.es/almeria/20140522/local/almeria/visito-localizaciones-almeria-hace-201405221254.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Again, careful on spoilers. There's a thread for season 5 casting stuff, use that please. This is about Spain being used for filming. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hath4 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 sorry ran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall Tyrion Lannister! Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Not sure if this belongs here but Read they are planning to cast Maggy the Frog, so does that mean we get a flashback? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 If this isn't about Spain, no, post it in the Casting Season 5 thread instead. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall Tyrion Lannister! Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 okay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTFSalami Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 I love the idea of using Ellaria, a character already introduced, to connect the show-only viewers to the Dornish storyline. Adding Oberyn's remains is a nice touch too. I also like the idea of including the Sand Snakes in the Myrcella plot. It helps cut back on the number of new, unimportant characters. and to stay on topic, I think Spain would be a WONDERFUL venue to help depict this! Ellaria accompanies Oberyn's remains back to Dorne in the books and appears in the Dornish chapters. It wouldn't be an invented plot for the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dragon has three heads Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Dorn+Mereen plz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waxfoot Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 When reading the books I hoped Renly's story would be that he would side with his brother but be killed at the Blackwater.That side story was a closed loop that went nowhere.The whole ASOIAF series is full of plots that interweave, some seem important but end more quickly than expected whereas some seem trivial but burst into life with a single twist. I'd be wary of leaving out any plot strand. They are all relevant to the intricacies of the overarching world and story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen of Whores Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 I have a feeling I'm gonna have a massive desire to visit Spain after season 5. I mean, from what I've seen and heard it's already a beautiful country, but seeing it on Game of Thrones, which often brings out the best of places, will increase that desire even more. I'm one of the (seemingly) few people that love all the Dorne stuff, so I hope heaps of time is spent there in season 5. I love Arianne and Doran, and can't wait to see Myrcella again (even though she's a fairly minor character). Also, the only time I'll ever approve of gratuitous sexposition scenes on this show is with the Sank Snakes and Arianne, tbh. I think I'm more excited for Dorne and the Martells in season 5 than anything else on the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idler Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 I still puzzle over Iceland for season 4, yes I know it's beautiful and exotic , but most of that shooting could have been done in NI.Maybe they signed a three year deal?They better did. I heard something like "Winter is coming!" :idea: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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