Good Guy Garlan Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Hell no, she should be rewarded. She saved the realm from a Mad King 2.0. Guest right, much like the vows of the kingsguard, is worthless when it comes to the greater good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maid So Fair Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Nope. Ned was an inhabitant of the Tower of the Hand. He had his own home in KL and was not a guest of the IT. Surely the TotH is just a part of the Red Keep? It's safe to assume the Tyrells have been assigned some personal quarters as well. I agree that he wasn't really a guest but then again I don't think Olenna/the Tyrells is really a guest eithe, they are a part of the government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Blue Eyes Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Surely the TotH is just a part of the Red Keep? It's safe to assume the Tyrells have been assigned some personal quarters as well. I agree that he wasn't really a guest but then again I don't think Olenna/the Tyrells is really a guest eithe, they are a part of the government. Mace, yes. Margaery, yes, Loras, yes. Olenna, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batbob45 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Even though she framed Sansa and Tyrion It hard to hate someone who plot to kill Joffrey to make sure her kin doesn't marry a monster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee-Sensei Posted June 7, 2014 Author Share Posted June 7, 2014 Has Joffrey broken the guest right by imprisoning and killing Ned? How about Jaime by attacking him in the streets? I'm not sure the Tyrells can be seen as guests in King's Landing - it is technically their home as much as it is for the Lannisters. They weren't acting in the capacity of guests in any case as they help to pay for and organise the whole thing and are a part of the Small Council. No. Ned was a hostage. And when Jaime attacked Neds men, they weren't guests. It was out in the street. Killing Ned would be comparable to Ned killing Theon if Balon rebelled. It wouldn't be breaking guest rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch-MaesterPhilip Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 She didn't break guest right. More like kinslaying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs.Grumpy Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Once Marg and Joff got married, Red Keep had become their home too. She is accused of murdering Joffrey, and she should be rewarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee-Sensei Posted June 7, 2014 Author Share Posted June 7, 2014 Even though she framed Sansa and Tyrion It hard to hate someone who plot to kill Joffrey to make sure her kin doesn't marry a monster Then maybe they should have gone back to Highgarden. Once Marg and Joff got married, Red Keep had become their home too. She is accused of murdering Joffrey, and she should be rewarded. That's not how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sj4iy Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 I don't see the Tyrells keeping their status after the Lannisters are gone...no one would remotely trust them and I have a felling they will lose a lot of money after going all in with the Lannisters, who are pretty much doomed at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Yes, I guess the Gods and men would be so pissed that Olenna Tyrell killed Joffrey Baratheon, the sweetest child ever set foot on earth, that they are planning the worst punish known by man for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee-Sensei Posted June 7, 2014 Author Share Posted June 7, 2014 Yes, I guess the Gods and men would be so pissed that Olenna Tyrell killed Joffrey Baratheon, the sweetest child ever set foot on earth, that they are planning the worst punish known by man for her. That's entirely irrelevant. She broke guest rights. That's all that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs_Darcy Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Mace, yes. Margaery, yes, Loras, yes. Olenna, no. Additionally, Garlan and Leonette seem to have played a part as well and both were guests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilrob6 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Guest or not, she would be punished for poisoning her king. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana Holland Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 I have long argued and wanted at the end of the last book that new families be raised up to replace the old ones. I wouldn't mind if house tyrell got replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 That's entirely irrelevant. She broke guest rights. That's all that matters. Matters to who? The Freys aren't dying because the Gods are sending fire from the sky. They are dying because the families or those who died during the RW are mad at them and want revenge. It's a natural consequence of their actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee-Sensei Posted June 7, 2014 Author Share Posted June 7, 2014 Matters to who? The Freys aren't dying because the Gods are sending fire from the sky. They are dying because the families or those who died during the RW are mad at them and want revenge. It's a natural consequence of their actions. It matters to the Gods. That's how this world works. Jaime's hand wasn't cut off for pushing Bran out a window. Theon wasn't tortured for "killing Bran and Rickon". Acursed is the kinslayer. The same thing for people who break guest rights. Her time is coming. And it may come from the IB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch-MaesterPhilip Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 How did she break guest rights? Joffrey wasn't her guest, was he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormland's Fury Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 How did she break guest rights? Joffrey wasn't her guest, was he? She was his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWitch Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 I hope Ollena dies before she could be punished. It would be annoying if she was punished but I feel it may happen. Joff was a little shit and needed to go so I still stand by her choice. I think comparing the murder of a little psycho to save the realm from further bloodshed, and to no doubt protect her grandaughter is far more admirable than Walter Freya actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shpati Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Joffrey was never the rightful king, so she won't get punished for kingslaying. Joffrey was about to be very harmful to Tyrion, so Olenna was just defending Tyrion before Joffrey broke guest right. Yes, I'm being extremely biased here, and idgaf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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