The Shadow of the Shadew Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 If Davos hadn't come with his onions and Stannis died, would Robert care?Ned was like a brother Robert and Robert didnt like his younger brother.Would Robert swear furious vengeance on the Reach or would he suck on a lemon and do nothing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictarion Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Yes. This idea that Robert hated Stannis is unfounded. He gave him not only a castle, but a seat on his small council. Deep down I'm sure Robert had love for Stannis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby b's bobby Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Yep it give him an even bigger hatred for targs Robert and stannis both loved each other just didn't like each other much. I'd imagine Robert would want something from the reach as punishment but I don't know what makes up for a brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trigger Warning Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 "There's a difference, you know, between not liking my brother and not caring when some dumb Irish fat fool drops him out of a window." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Onion Kniggit Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Considering that his death would mean his men would likely surrender SE which in turns leads to little Renly being a hostage (assuming he is still alive), the Stormlands being completely overrun, Bob being shamed, desertion from the rebel army and a massive host from the Reach coming up to fight him which also would've likely in turn convince Tywin to side with the Loyalist which would mean in the end that Bob is fucked. Ned and Jon could easily bail out of the rebellion as their homelands are nearly impossible to invade and not surrounded by enemies, but Old Tully and Bob would be in some deep shit. Yea I'm pretty sure Bob cared tremendously , if not for his own sake, his allies sake and the sake of winning the rebellion. Stannis' defense of Storm's End was one of the if not the most important factor in the rebellion. As for actually caring for Stan? Well they seem to have mostly grown apart after the rebellion so I sure Bob actually cared more for him back then. Especially considering how Stan just martyred himself for Bob's cause. He would be incredibly enraged for sure more than he was at the Trident and you can ask Rhaegar what happens when you meet a pissed off Baratheon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howling Mad Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Robert would have cared on multiple levels. Losing SE to his enemies, the loss of his brother and initial heir, etc. I could envision Robert going full revenge mode and laying waste to the rebel lords of the Reach. The odds of a negotiated peace with House Tyrell diminish precipitously with the death of Stannis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Storm Reborn Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 GRRM already said despite Robert not liking his brothers much... he loved them, and vice-versa... like the majority of brothers in real life who don´t get along... add that to the fact Stannis died holding his brother's home and choosing him in detriment of his King So, yes... he would care and grieve until it was time to let go... not like Lyanna's case or a possible Ned death prior to his own though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibzit Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Well, since Renly was there with Stannis and Robert would lose both his hiers, I am sure he would be really sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batbob45 Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 unlike adult Renly, Robert would of at least be a little upset about Stannis' death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ser Septon Maester Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Considering that his death would mean his men would likely surrender SE which in turns leads to little Renly being a hostage (assuming he is still alive), the Stormlands being completely overrun, Bob being shamed, desertion from the rebel army and a massive host from the Reach coming up to fight him which also would've likely in turn convince Tywin to side with the Loyalist which would mean in the end that Bob is fucked. Ned and Jon could easily bail out of the rebellion as their homelands are nearly impossible to invade and not surrounded by enemies, but Old Tully and Bob would be in some deep shit. Yea I'm pretty sure Bob cared tremendously , if not for his own sake, his allies sake and the sake of winning the rebellion. Stannis' defense of Storm's End was one of the if not the most important factor in the rebellion. As for actually caring for Stan? Well they seem to have mostly grown apart after the rebellion so I sure Bob actually cared more for him back then. Especially considering how Stan just martyred himself for Bob's cause. He would be incredibly enraged for sure more than he was at the Trident and you can ask Rhaegar what happens when you meet a pissed off Baratheon Solid analysis. Pragmatically, Robert would be screwed. Emotionally, he did feel something for Stannis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Señor de la Tormenta Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 He loved me but little, I know, yet he was my brother Even Stannis addmits robert did care for him at some small degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gustaf Stark Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Yes, Robert had some love for his younger sibling. Maybe not as much as he loved Ned, but still some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Storm Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Considering that his death would mean his men would likely surrender SE which in turns leads to little Renly being a hostage (assuming he is still alive), the Stormlands being completely overrun, Bob being shamed, desertion from the rebel army and a massive host from the Reach coming up to fight him which also would've likely in turn convince Tywin to side with the Loyalist which would mean in the end that Bob is fucked. Ned and Jon could easily bail out of the rebellion as their homelands are nearly impossible to invade and not surrounded by enemies, but Old Tully and Bob would be in some deep shit. Yea I'm pretty sure Bob cared tremendously , if not for his own sake, his allies sake and the sake of winning the rebellion. Stannis' defense of Storm's End was one of the if not the most important factor in the rebellion. As for actually caring for Stan? Well they seem to have mostly grown apart after the rebellion so I sure Bob actually cared more for him back then. Especially considering how Stan just martyred himself for Bob's cause. He would be incredibly enraged for sure more than he was at the Trident and you can ask Rhaegar what happens when you meet a pissed off BaratheonSo, Davos is the true hero of Roberts rebellion?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Witch King of Asshai Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 If Stannis dies and Robert still crushes Rhaegar on the Trident, then I'm guessing the chance of a peaceful resolution in the south diminishes. And both sides would know this. After killing or capturing both of his heirs, the Tyrells would probably attempt to bend the knee in the knowledge there would be repercussions, and I think Ned and Jon at least would support this. That said, I think Bob would find it difficult to let this go, probably putting the Tyrells just below the Targs on his hate list. However, he understood that a relatively unbloodied reach would've been a challenge, and a potentially pyrrhic one, even with Tywin on side. So, as much as he would like to, I don't see him going to war with the Reach, but he would definitely make them pay. It's probably safe to assume Viserys would not have lasted long had Stannis died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Storm Reborn Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Let´s put it this way... Robert wins the trident and the IT but Stannis (or/and Renly) gets executed by Mace or Randyll... He would hunt them to the back of the beyond if need be... and smash their heads Ned is more to him than his brothers... but they are HIS brothers, his blood that died FOR him... it would be nasty i'm sure of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimJames Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 I'm sure that despite their tense relationship Robert loved Stannis. If Stannis got killed, Robert would likely be pissed off. Mace Tyrell can expect all Tyrell titles to be revoked, and Hightower would probably rule The Reach instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Onion Kniggit Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 So, Davos is the true hero of Roberts rebellion?? Seeing as how none of the leaders on both sides could be considered as a such, I guess he's the closest thing. His intentions... or at least his actions were pretty much entirely benevolent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsc Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 unlike adult Renly, Robert would of at least be a little upset about Stannis' death. Renly would likely have expressed regret for Stannis's death the same as how Stannis does to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Mac Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 All the Baratheon brothers loved each other, they just didn't like each other. Of course Robert would be sad if Stannis died. They both lost their parents, and even though they were never close, I'm sure Robert was always grateful he had actual family supporting him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byfort of Corfe Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Had Stannis died in the siege I think that Robert would have shown no mercy to those he felt responsible. Brothers may seem reserved at times but there is always an underlying bond, either of hatred (Sandor and Gregor) or love and family (basically everyone else.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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