GeorgeIAF Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Unless you've been living under a tree, there's been instances where the critically acclaimed bit has been put to the test. Sansa's storyline, for one. Sansa's story is better than the one in the books, get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie G Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 True that ^ Give me Sansa at home in WF over the Vale any day. And I never realized people actually care a lick about Harry - esp. when he would serve no role in the show's plot at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallam Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Sansa's storyline is a cliffhanger as it is. The preview looks like she is about to go for broke and do something that she thinks may cost her her life and she does not care anymore. Jaime's story looks like it will be able to get back on track and everyone else seems to be where they should. Arya's story seems slow. i hope she can get a boat back to Westeros Exactly. The book has great plots but the Lemoncakes plotline isn't one of them. It is rubbish and D&D did right to replace it. I suspect book Sansa never amounts to anything, never becomes a player. Show Sansa is turning into Arya. Arya's book plotline is fine BUT it is tediously slow because GRRM has to wait for Westeros to catch up before he unleashes her. Plus he was persuaded to do her plotline in books 4 and 5 making it even slower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
239JMFL34109 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Lol! Sure, you have to be really smart to understand the importance of Harold Hardying in ASOIAF. This major character can't be cut :rolleyes: :bowdown: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
239JMFL34109 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Exactly. The book has great plots but the Lemoncakes plotline isn't one of them. It is rubbish and D&D did right to replace it. I suspect book Sansa never amounts to anything, never becomes a player. Show Sansa is turning into Arya. Arya's book plotline is fine BUT it is tediously slow because GRRM has to wait for Westeros to catch up before he unleashes her. Plus he was persuaded to do her plotline in books 4 and 5 making it even slower. YEad i think sansa i think she get word to jon and sends breinne a signal getting her hands dirty herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernmonkey Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 The whole point of having Sansa marry Ramsay is to cut out relatively unimportant characters like Harold Hardyng. So no, definitely not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Ghost of Someone Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 To be honest, they did not have to have Sansa marry Ramsay, let alone be raped by him but it strikes me as her storyline seems to be about to change or end in some way. I have bad feelings about her survival atleast till season 7 but I suppose it is inevitable that all of the Starks will not survive. I just hope she does not birth a Bolton to continue that evil house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
239JMFL34109 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 To be honest, they did not have to have Sansa marry Ramsay, let alone be raped by him but it strikes me as her storyline seems to be about to change or end in some way. I have bad feelings about her survival atleast till season 7 but I suppose it is inevitable that all of the Starks will not survive. I just hope she does not birth a Bolton to continue that evil house. i think if all of them are dead he is getting named stark. but i doubt she is anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hos the Hostage Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 There were two actors cast for season 5 whose roles were not given in the website. Have we found them yet? They were rumoured to be the Gryffs. The young actor could also be Harry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Tiger Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Unless you've been living under a tree, there's been instances where the critically acclaimed bit has been put to the test. Sansa's storyline, for one. I would agree with you if she didn't spend 3 fucking books in the Vale. George could have wrapped this shit up by DWD, instead he needed part of Storm, AFFC, DWD (even though she wasn't in this, they could have used this to wrap up the Vale story) and even parts of TWOW, this is getting ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby b's bobby Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I would agree with you if she didn't spend 3 fucking books in the Vale. George could have wrapped this shit up by DWD, instead he needed part of Storm, AFFC, DWD (even though she wasn't in this, they could have used this to wrap up the Vale story) and even parts of TWOW, this is getting ridiculous.True but I still prefer that to being raped into "empowerment" in a storyline lacking the best parts if the wf storyline like theon,manderly and freys preferably in pie form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Blackmont Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 John is legitimate, several among the living Northern nobility are aware of this. He technically has a better claim than Sansa, I don't know about Rickon though. Does a legitimized bastard have equal primogeniture to a trueborn son under Westerosi law? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grail King Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 John is legitimate, several among the living Northern nobility are aware of this. He technically has a better claim than Sansa, I don't know about Rickon though. Does a legitimized bastard have equal primogeniture to a trueborn son under Westerosi law? True born first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Blackmont Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Robb did make Jon his direct heir. I imagine that Robb's document means more than your average legitimization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Ghost of Someone Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 True born first. True Born males, then legitimized males, then trueborn females and then legitimized females I believe. Only in book Dorne do they treat women as full equals in succesion for legitimate children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodrik Cassel Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 I realy don´t see how the vale storyline is boring, sansa starts to play people ffs she even has witty dialouges now ( wow chapter); and for my part I like to read/watch things like tourneys and other stuff concerning knights and chivalry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perfidious Algernon Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 When I read the title of this thread, I assumed it was about Ser Shadrich. Kinda bummed that we haven't seen him yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Ghost of Someone Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 I realy don´t see how the vale storyline is boring, sansa starts to play people ffs she even has witty dialouges now ( wow chapter); and for my part I like to read/watch things like tourneys and other stuff concerning knights and chivalry. There is a lot of intrigue going on in he Vale regarding her story and LF is one of the major players so, it is meaningful, just not a lot of sex and death there, yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Knight in Motley Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 They didn't improve her story, the used her like the pawn she's always been to further the story of two other characters: a villain we'd like to see redeem themselves and the for some reason charismatic misanthrope that has become a 'fan' favorite. Very little of what has happened to Sansa this season has actually been about Sansa. No, what they did with the character was rather sloppy and focused around one scene with little consideration of the consequences of getting them there, and the aftermath. Bringing in some kind of literal knight in shining armor to rescue her would be the insulting icing on the mediocre cake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astromech Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 When I read the title of this thread, I assumed it was about Ser Shadrich. Kinda bummed that we haven't seen him yet. Agreed. Where's the Mad Mouse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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