Pain killer Jane Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 16 minutes ago, Isobel Harper said: Doesn't the Scarecrow in The Wizard of Oz point in a certain direction when Dorothy first comes upon him? Isn't it east or west? Maybe the crucified slaves in Clash are another sort of "scarecrow?" You know I don't remember if he was pointing in any direction since I haven't read the Baum books in a long time. Yes the crucified children on the road to Meereen are scarecrows in the aspect of warning and terrifying the slaves and therefore talismans against Dany, ones that are made from the slaughter of innocents. The pointing, if the scarecrow was pointing in a specific direction, would be a physical allusion. It also could be the use of the weathervane in the shape of a rooster, which was said to be by Pope Gregory to be a symbol of St. Pete (the guy that denied Chirst three times before the rooster crowed. 2 hours ago, ravenous reader said: In addition to 'Tor' meaning gateway or portal, it can also mean 'scoring a goal' (e.g. in a game such as football=soccer) as well as being a 'fool' or 'idiot' in German. I love the scoring a goal in football, especially considering how Ned's (if we parallel Ned and Torrhen) head ended up on a spike like a warrior's head on a tzompantli. 3 hours ago, ravenous reader said: Perhaps you ought to mention it to @Wizz-The-Smith. He does so love identifying a new hill, hollow preferably! @Tijgy has also pointed out that the name 'Brandon' can also mean a hill. So GRRM definitely wishes to identify those Starks with hills. Thank you! I will mention it to him. Tormund as well if we accept that Tor is tower and mund is actually mound as well as protector. I also need to mention that in the article I sent you @ravenous reader, in Scotland scarecrows are called bodach-rocais or 'old man of the rooks' and a rook is a tower and we have several towers known to be rookeries with a lot of crows. And given, that I saw that GRRM was a step below a chess master, this is not a coincidence. So in light of this, I think Torrhen, Tormund Giantsbane or his other alias Tormund Thunderfist might be the link between the towers on fire symbolism and scarecrows on fire and sacred caves and hollow hills and Calvary Hill. By the way, I think it might be significant that the word rook is derived from the Persian word meaning chariot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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