Jack Bauer 24 Posted May 19, 2016 Author Share Posted May 19, 2016 1 minute ago, kimim said: Varma is good, but Dorne is awful, both novels and show. Best thing I can say about the show is that they kicked it to the background. Clarke...imo not a good actress, and her part is badly written. As with Dorne, show is suffering the shortcomings of the novel. imo show Cersei is a vast improvement over the novel Cersei, in that she is human. This season's KL bits are boring me to death, though, despite that. Not much is happening. Characters that were fun, like Olenna, are lackluster. I wish the show had reduced screen time for KL, which is a waiting game til Dany shows up and/or Cersei burns it down, in both novels and show. ...don't forget Whelan, whose Yara is superior to Pirates of the Caribbean Asha. Then there's Van Houten, who is great. They should have switched Dormer and Clarke! Dormer's irony would have saved the khalasar scene. Clarke is so very earnest. omg. Yeah Whalen is great. Asha is terrible in the books while Yara is great on the show. And yeah Carice is great too. Maisie is awesome as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
protar Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 16 minutes ago, Channel4s-JonSnow said: She was one of the major characters of season 3. You dont need to show endless scenes just to do that. She's been in the show since season 1, how much more development do you need. No she wasn't. She was sidelined. Has been sidelined since the beginning. They prioritised Robb's campaign over Catelyn watching her family crumble around her. It's been said over and over again but Cat just did not get enough screen time. It's a metric fact that she got less screen time than minor characters and no amount of wiggle room excuses that. You can only do so much with so little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairGrowsBack Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 14 minutes ago, Jack Bauer 24 said: Yeah Whalen is great. Asha is terrible in the books while Yara is great on the show. And yeah Carice is great too. Maisie is awesome as well. I'll bite. Why is Asha terrible in the books ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Bauer 24 Posted May 19, 2016 Author Share Posted May 19, 2016 34 minutes ago, HairGrowsBack said: I'll bite. Why is Asha terrible in the books ? She's a PotC cardboard cutout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boarsbane Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 5 minutes ago, Jack Bauer 24 said: She's a PotC cardboard cutout. Yea George clearly ripped of Pirates of the Caribbean with a character he created before Pirates of the Caribbean existed. Seriously, what makes the show character so much different and better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Bauer 24 Posted May 19, 2016 Author Share Posted May 19, 2016 1 minute ago, Boarsbane said: Yea George clearly ripped of Pirates of the Caribbean with a character he created before Pirates of the Caribbean existed. Seriously, what makes the show character so much different and better? Typical pirate. One of the many reasons I prefer show Euron is no tropey eye patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valetudo Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 1 minute ago, Boarsbane said: Yea George clearly ripped of Pirates of the Caribbean with a character he created before Pirates of the Caribbean existed. Seriously, what makes the show character so much different and better? let me guess: she's a strong woman with agency who crushes weak little men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GallowKnight Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Just now, Valetudo said: let me guess: she's a strong woman with agency who crushes weak little men. Also, she's scared of dogs. See, instant character depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Bauer 24 Posted May 19, 2016 Author Share Posted May 19, 2016 3 minutes ago, The_Gallows_Knight said: Also, she's scared of dogs. See, instant character depth. Who wouldn't be scared of those dogs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GallowKnight Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Just now, Jack Bauer 24 said: Who wouldn't be scared of those dogs? People in armor, with shields and weapons maybe. Y'know, the baddest, hardest killers on the Iron islands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tianzi Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Dude, those dogs can teleport back to Winterfell when they sense fresh corpse with their sixth sense. I'd be scared too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boarsbane Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 7 minutes ago, Valetudo said: let me guess: she's a strong woman with agency who crushes weak little men. Good point, I'd forgotten Asha in the books tried to make peace with people, the opposite of what a strong woman would do. Show Asha, sorry Yara, will no doubt advocate total war against the men of Westeros, continuing the theme of strong women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Bauer 24 Posted May 19, 2016 Author Share Posted May 19, 2016 1 minute ago, The_Gallows_Knight said: People in armor, with shields and weapons maybe. Y'know, the baddest, hardest killers on the Iron islands. Doesn't really cut it for me. They were killer dogs PLUS Ramsay and his men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Bauer 24 Posted May 19, 2016 Author Share Posted May 19, 2016 1 minute ago, Tianzi said: Dude, those dogs can teleport back to Winterfell when they sense fresh corpse with their sixth sense. I'd be scared too. https://www.reddit.com/r/gameofthrones/comments/4gj2eo/s6e1_ramsays_dogs_were_not_a_plothole/ Try...harder? Better yet don't try at all maybe lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meera of Tarth Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 1 hour ago, Jack Bauer 24 said: Yeah Whalen is great. Asha is terrible in the books while Yara is great on the show. And yeah Carice is great too. Maisie is awesome as well. Why is Asha terrible in the books? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GallowKnight Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Just now, Jack Bauer 24 said: Doesn't really cut it for me. They were killer dogs PLUS Ramsay and his men. Yeah, a shirtless idiot in a fight with bladed weapons. How he managed to survive that is a fucking miracle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Bauer 24 Posted May 19, 2016 Author Share Posted May 19, 2016 Just now, Meera of Tarth said: Why is Asha terrible in the books? Did you not see my other post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meera of Tarth Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 56 minutes ago, HairGrowsBack said: I'll bite. Why is Asha terrible in the books ? 21 minutes ago, Jack Bauer 24 said: She's a PotC cardboard cutout. Oh, just seen there is the same question.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Bauer 24 Posted May 19, 2016 Author Share Posted May 19, 2016 1 minute ago, The_Gallows_Knight said: Yeah, a shirtless idiot in a fight with bladed weapons. How he managed to survive that is a fucking miracle. He had armored men with him though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cas Stark Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Definitely the Iron Born's fear of dogs was excellent world building and character building. And it was there that we first saw Ramsay's charisma and genius, where he hypnotized a room full of people wearing leather and chain mail and got them to stand still and watch, while he, shirtless in silk pants, monologued and then let loose the hounds. GRRM would never have been able to come up with such a multi dimensional characterization and deeply moving scene as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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