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3 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said:

According to the BBC map there's still a fair amount of London that hasn't reported, are they large districts?

fairly large yes.

 

This map indicates how large each area is

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2016/jun/23/eu-referendum-live-results-and-analysis

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4 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said:

According to the BBC map there's still a fair amount of London that hasn't reported, are they large districts?

If you go here http://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2016/jun/23/eu-referendum-live-results-and-analysis the districts are shown according to population (the larger the area the larger the population in the district. Tghe london districts are reasonably large, but so are several non-London districts that are likely to flip for leave.

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Interestingly, though probably not enough to affect the final outcome, the 2 countries that have voted to remain (NI and Scotland) have had a substantially lower turnout than England and Wales. 

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I don't see any way that remain wins the vote at this point, there aren't that many London districts left.  Unless there's some reason to think he remaining big non-London England areas like Birmingham, Leeds, etc are strong pro-remain, I think this one is over.  

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Just now, Maithanet said:

I don't see any way that remain wins the vote at this point, there aren't that many London districts left.  Unless there's some reason to think he remaining big non-London England areas like Birmingham, Leeds, etc are strong pro-remain, I think this one is over.  

Birmingham is not going to come through for Remain. If they do win there it will be with a tiny margin.

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Bbc news pundits are having a serious conversation about whether or not there will be a run on the banks tomorrow and if parliament will freeze markets or allow markets to open tomorrow.  

Fall in the value of the pound is already double the fall of the worst day of the Great Recession.

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6 minutes ago, Chaircat Meow said:

Birmingham is not going to come through for Remain. If they do win there it will be with a tiny margin.

Birmingham has narrowly voted for leave. I think that was remain's only hop if Birmingham had voted remain by a decent margin. It really is all over now, barring a miracle of all the remaining large districts going for remain by over 60%

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3 minutes ago, lokisnow said:

Bbc news pundits are having a serious conversation about whether or not there will be a run on the banks tomorrow and if parliament will freeze markets or allow markets to open tomorrow.  

Fall in the value of the pound is already double the fall of the worst day of the Great Recession.

I think markets should be closed, because this reaction is totally reflexive. Despite the EU saying there's no further room for negotiation It can do a Farage and change its mind and give a bunch more concessions for Britain to stay in, and if the concessions are substantial enough the govt could choose to stay in the EU despite the result of the referendum.

Politically highly risky only in that it can drive a bunch more people to vote UKIP next election. But in terms of Labour / Tory split it won't make a difference since both parties had a remain policy.

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If you separate England from the rest, then the rest voted for remain by 650K votes. That gives the govt a fig leaf of an excuse to not actually leave the EU. And of course Scotland voting for remain by a large margin is another fig leaf for staying in that if the UK leaves then there will be another strong push for an independence referendum.

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Fucking hell. This does not help my sense of foreboding despair that the world is about to collapse back into a much darker and shitter state.  Can't help but think that we can thank the Greece crisis for swaying more people to leave.

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1 minute ago, The Anti-Targ said:

If you separate England from the rest, then the rest voted for remain by 650K votes. That gives the govt a fig leaf of an excuse to not actually leave the EU. And of course Scotland voting for remain by a large margin is another fig leaf for staying in that if the UK leaves then there will be another strong push for an independence referendum.

It really doesn't.

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3 minutes ago, The Anti-Targ said:

If you separate England from the rest, then the rest voted for remain by 650K votes. That gives the govt a fig leaf of an excuse to not actually leave the EU. And of course Scotland voting for remain by a large margin is another fig leaf for staying in that if the UK leaves then there will be another strong push for an independence referendum.

Howso?

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1 minute ago, Unbent_Unbroken said:

Well. Fuck. Scotland should have gotten out while they could.

Apparently they still can. They have time to have a referendum on leaving the UK within the next 2 years, which is time for them to leave before the UK leaves the EU.

Which would be really, really funny and also kind of awesome, if Scotland and Ireland stayed in the EU and England left. 

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