Prince Yourwetdream Aeryn Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Rickon Stark has three sons. After Rhaegar got married Rickon could offer Ned to Tywin. I don't understand why he didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King17 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 You mean Rickard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetiger Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 What I don't understand is the wave of spam threads you unleash on the forum. All those things csn be just as well didcussed in Small Questions thread. And maybe read Wiki of Ice and Fire before starting a thread... 'Rickon Stark' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevets Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 18 minutes ago, Brandon Baratheon said: Rickon Stark has three sons. After Rhaegar got married Rickon could offer Ned to Tywin. I don't understand why he didn't. If I recall correctly, Rickard Stark was forming an alliance to counterbalance Aerys. Tywin was Aerys's Hand and therefore close to him. Probably too close for comfort. Tywin was also probably aiming higher for Cersei, and I don't think he had any other girls the right age available. As for why Rickon Stark didn't offer an alliance, his being 4 years old probably had something to do with it. That and his dad's execution by Tywin's grandson, who he was supporting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Yourwetdream Aeryn Posted March 25, 2017 Author Share Posted March 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Nevets said: If I recall correctly, Rickard Stark was forming an alliance to counterbalance Aerys. Tywin was Aerys's Hand and therefore close to him. Probably too close for comfort. Tywin was also probably aiming higher for Cersei, and I don't think he had any other girls the right age available. After Rhaegar's marriage there is chance. Did Rickard know that Tywin wants to marry Cersei with Viserys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Yourwetdream Aeryn Posted March 25, 2017 Author Share Posted March 25, 2017 12 minutes ago, King17 said: You mean Rickard yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clegane'sPup Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 40 minutes ago, Blue Tiger said: What I don't understand is the wave of spam threads you unleash on the forum. All those things csn be just as well didcussed in Small Questions thread. And maybe read Wiki of Ice and Fire before starting a thread... 'Rickon Stark' My penny/groat worth lackadaisical comment is --- it is spring break somewhere OR the board owners because the threads are moving so slow brought in someone to kick up the traffic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dofs Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 I am not sure what communication Rickard had with Tywin but Tywin did try to get into the alliance of North-Riverlands-Stormlands-Vale by marrying Jaime to Lysa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Nevets said: If I recall correctly, Rickard Stark was forming an alliance to counterbalance Aerys. I don't think that you do. There is nowhere said that Rickard was conspiring against Aerys. After Rhaegar's marriage there is chance. Did Rickard know that Tywin wants to marry Cersei with Viserys? What would Tywin gain from that? A second son for the most beautiful woman in Westeros who has the most powerful man in Westeros as her father? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renly's Banana Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Sorry but I started giggling like an idiot reading that title. I know people in this fandom have their crazy conspiracy theories but that would have been a step too far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philokles Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 26 minutes ago, Renly's Banana said: Sorry but I started giggling like an idiot reading that title. I know people in this fandom have their crazy conspiracy theories but that would have been a step too far. I've seen worse. You can argue anything through selective quotation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lannister Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 8 hours ago, Blue Tiger said: What I don't understand is the wave of spam threads you unleash on the forum. All those things csn be just as well didcussed in Small Questions thread. And maybe read Wiki of Ice and Fire before starting a thread... 'Rickon Stark' Yeah, always seems like there's someone doing this. I really wish there were limitations on posting new topics, especially by new accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Yourwetdream Aeryn Posted March 26, 2017 Author Share Posted March 26, 2017 13 hours ago, Jon's Queen Consort said: I don't think that you do. There is nowhere said that Rickard was conspiring against Aerys. What would Tywin gain from that? A second son for the most beautiful woman in Westeros who has the most powerful man in Westeros as her father? I understand Tywin's position (without your answers). I am wondering Rickard could propose it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinceHenryris Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 There might be something here. IIRC Jaime remembers being sent to Riverrun on an errand by Sumner Crakehalł when he was a squire. Supposedly, it was too important for a raven. So Jaime had to wait while Hoster deliberated. I want to say that Hoster deliberated for a fortnight, but it might have been longer or shorter. Jaime also recalls being seated next to Lysa every night. Even though the young Lysa was apparently attractive, the young Jaime was more interested in the Blackfish's stories of war and glory. I doubt that even Sumner Crakehall would have sent Jaime from his side without, at least, informing Tywin. So what it comes down to, for me, is that there was an attempt to bring Tywin into the alliance, but it wasn't Rickard Stark who was the prime mover, but Hoster Tully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livesundersink Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 1 hour ago, PrinceHenryris said: There might be something here. IIRC Jaime remembers being sent to Riverrun on an errand by Sumner Crakehalł when he was a squire. Supposedly, it was too important for a raven. So Jaime had to wait while Hoster deliberated. I want to say that Hoster deliberated for a fortnight, but it might have been longer or shorter. Jaime also recalls being seated next to Lysa every night. Even though the young Lysa was apparently attractive, the young Jaime was more interested in the Blackfish's stories of war and glory. I doubt that even Sumner Crakehall would have sent Jaime from his side without, at least, informing Tywin. So what it comes down to, for me, is that there was an attempt to bring Tywin into the alliance, but it wasn't Rickard Stark who was the prime mover, but Hoster Tully. It was Hoster and Tywin both. Jaime recalls the visit to Riverrun, saying he stayed for a fortnight and that Hoster took care to seat him next to Lysa at every meal. Cersei would later tell him that Hoster had journeyed to King's Landing to discuss the dower with Tywin, it was at this time she also said that Tywin was waiting for Viserys to mature or for Elia to die in childbirth, so that Cersei would have a royal match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 On 26/3/2017 at 1:29 PM, Brandon Baratheon said: I understand Tywin's position (without your answers). I am wondering Rickard could propose it or not. Probably because he was smart enough to know that he had nothing to offer in order to gain Tywin's support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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