felice Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 20 hours ago, Nasty LongRider said: More from the Forbes article: Quote The federal government will have far less ability to respond to economic downturns unless previously unimaginable and politically intolerable deficits, tax increases or spending cuts suddenly become acceptable. We don't need previously unimaginable tax increases, just a return to the top marginal rates of the '50s. Or even '60s and '70s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRider Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 3 hours ago, Ormond said: This seems to be a good analysis. However, ~~~snip~~~ Whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 So the RCP polling average has Jones up +0.2. There are still 3 weeks to go, but at this point it's a toss-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martell Spy Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Report: H.R. McMaster, Like Rex Tillerson, Has Said Privately That Trump Is Real Dumb http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/11/20/report_h_r_mcmaster_disparaged_trump_s_intelligence_at_private_dinner.html How the Trump Tax Cuts Would Reshape (and/or Break) Our Economy http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/11/how-the-trump-tax-cuts-would-reshape-our-economy.html The Republican Plan Is the Opposite of Tax Reform http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/11/the-republican-plan-is-the-opposite-of-tax-reform.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivin Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 hour ago, The Great Unwashed said: So the RCP polling average has Jones up +0.2. There are still 3 weeks to go, but at this point it's a toss-up. I would caution against hope of even a toss up. Be realistic, plan for Moore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martell Spy Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Republicans Are Throwing Away Their Shot at Tax Reform There’s a manifest need to lower corporate tax rates—but instead of building consensus, the GOP is pursuing a bill that’s likely to be rolled back even if it passes. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/11/republicans-are-throwing-away-their-shot-at-tax-reform/546317/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 17 minutes ago, Martell Spy said: Report: H.R. McMaster, Like Rex Tillerson, Has Said Privately That Trump Is Real Dumb http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/11/20/report_h_r_mcmaster_disparaged_trump_s_intelligence_at_private_dinner.html Not to get too conspiracy-minded, but Ezra Cohen-Watnick, one of the folks McMaster removed from the National Security Council for being grossly underqualified, landed a job at Oracle. Considering how strongly Oracle spokespeople denied that McMaster said this after the story broke, it does make me wonder if these "sources" were Cohen-Watnick and his allies making up a story to try to get McMaster fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 42 minutes ago, WinterFox said: I would caution against hope of even a toss up. Be realistic, plan for Moore. I may be being wildly optimistic here, but I've privately predicted a Jones win to a couple of friends so I'll go ahead and make it public here. I believe that the breaking of a sex scandal (or sexual assault scandal) will generally break most candidates, and that Trump just happened to be an exception to that rule rather than a change of the rule itself. In addition, Jones is out-fundraising Moore since the scandal broke and is spending a ton more money on advertising than Moore is. Polling has unanimously shifted in Jones' favor, even among polls that show Moore ahead. It will most definitely be close, but I predict that Jones pulls this one out in the 11th inning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexal Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 13 minutes ago, The Great Unwashed said: I may be being wildly optimistic here, but I've privately predicted a Jones win to a couple of friends so I'll go ahead and make it public here. I believe that the breaking of a sex scandal (or sexual assault scandal) will generally break most candidates, and that Trump just happened to be an exception to that rule rather than a change of the rule itself. In addition, Jones is out-fundraising Moore since the scandal broke and is spending a ton more money on advertising than Moore is. Polling has unanimously shifted in Jones' favor, even among polls that show Moore ahead. It will most definitely be close, but I predict that Jones pulls this one out in the 11th inning. Turnout will be important. Have to hope pedophilia will, at the very least, keep some Republicans home. Still annoyed that the media has barely mentioned Jones other than to say he's the opponent of Moore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivin Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 18 minutes ago, The Great Unwashed said: I may be being wildly optimistic here, but I've privately predicted a Jones win to a couple of friends so I'll go ahead and make it public here. I believe that the breaking of a sex scandal (or sexual assault scandal) will generally break most candidates, and that Trump just happened to be an exception to that rule rather than a change of the rule itself. In addition, Jones is out-fundraising Moore since the scandal broke and is spending a ton more money on advertising than Moore is. Polling has unanimously shifted in Jones' favor, even among polls that show Moore ahead. It will most definitely be close, but I predict that Jones pulls this one out in the 11th inning. 4 minutes ago, Mexal said: Turnout will be important. Have to hope pedophilia will, at the very least, keep some Republicans home. Still annoyed that the media has barely mentioned Jones other than to say he's the opponent of Moore. I appreciate the optimism you guys are showing, but if Doug Jones is elected to the Senate next month I'll eat my bra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 13 minutes ago, Mexal said: Turnout will be important. Have to hope pedophilia will, at the very least, keep some Republicans home. Still annoyed that the media has barely mentioned Jones other than to say he's the opponent of Moore. Didn't Trump have one accuser who was really young? Anyways it sure didn't stop him from winning. 8 minutes ago, WinterFox said: I appreciate the optimism you guys are showing, but if Doug Jones is elected to the Senate next month I'll eat my bra. Pictures or it didn't happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 16 minutes ago, Mexal said: Still annoyed that the media has barely mentioned Jones other than to say he's the opponent of Moore. That's true of the national media, but is it true in Alabama? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 10 minutes ago, WinterFox said: I appreciate the optimism you guys are showing, but if Doug Jones is elected to the Senate next month I'll eat my bra. I guess you should buy a chocolate bra and wear that on the day of the elections, just as a precaution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 14 minutes ago, WinterFox said: I appreciate the optimism you guys are showing, but if Doug Jones is elected to the Senate next month I'll eat my bra. I won't hold you to that, but I'll bet you a board title for 2 weeks that Jones wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace, Extat Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Just now, The Great Unwashed said: I won't hold you to that, but I'll bet you a board title for 2 weeks that Jones wins. Done. ETA: I want in on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivin Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said: Didn't Trump have one accuser who was really young? Anyways it sure didn't stop him from winning. Pictures or it didn't happen! Of the chocolate bra? You betcha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 7 minutes ago, Pony Queen Jace said: Done. ETA: I want in on this. You're on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace, Extat Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 BOOOOOOOM! I always like to have an emotional handcuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivin Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 24 minutes ago, The Great Unwashed said: I won't hold you to that, but I'll bet you a board title for 2 weeks that Jones wins. 24 minutes ago, The Great Unwashed said: I won't hold you to that, but I'll bet you a board title for 2 weeks that Jones wins. Well it looks like the original offer has been swiped, but if you're amenable and willing to risk a defeat on two fronts I have an idea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 15 minutes ago, WinterFox said: Well it looks like the original offer has been swiped, but if you're amenable and willing to risk a defeat on two fronts I have an idea... Gotta go big or go home, so I'm in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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