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The Dothraki that Daenerys brought into Westeros

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In the television episodes:

Fan-fiction that I have seen expresses a fear that the Dothraki that Daenerys brought into Westeros, will some time go out of control and start raiding villages and then take over, like they did in central Essos.

In the world of the story, how likely is this?

Did those Dothraki bring their women in over the sea with them? If not, and thus they cannot have children, is it merely a matter of enduring them until they die of old age, if nothing else is possible?

Did they all die in battle against the wights and the Night King?

 

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14 hours ago, Anthony Appleyard said:

Fan-fiction that I have seen expresses a fear that the Dothraki that Daenerys brought into Westeros, will some time go out of control and start raiding villages and then take over, like they did in central Essos.

It is in GRRM history of the Grasslands. The Dothraki sea was before the place of the Sarnori kingdoms. There were frequent wars, much like in Westeros. They sought Khal Mengo, the first great khal, to fight their wars.

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Some of their kings even sought to use the Dothraki in their own wars, offering them gold and slaves and other gifts to fight against their rivals. Khal Mengo took these gifts gladly … then took the conquered lands as well, burning fields and farms and towns to return the grasslands to their wild state (for the Dothraki consider the earth to be their mother and think it sinful to cut her flesh with plows and spades and axes).

Clearly, the Dothrakis would have only one goal: make another grass sea of Westeros.

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3 hours ago, BalerionTheCat said:

.... Clearly, the Dothrakis would have only one goal: make another grass sea of Westeros.

Unless they were all killed when they were sent to attack the wights.

 

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18 hours ago, Anthony Appleyard said:

fear that the Dothraki that Daenerys brought into Westeros, will some time go out of control and start raiding villages and then take over

This fear is somehow reasonable. Dothraki are a warrior culture of raiding, raping and killing, they only honor strength.

18 hours ago, Anthony Appleyard said:

Did those Dothraki bring their women in over the sea with them? If not, and thus they cannot have children,

No, wrong notion. The Dothraki culture is actually based on raiding and raping. They will just attack villages, take the women, rape them, force them to marry them and found families. No problem at all for Dothraki to enjoy such a lifestyle.

18 hours ago, Anthony Appleyard said:

Did they all die in battle against the wights and the Night King?

No, they did not. We see several of them cheering during Daenerys' victory speech in the finale.

We did not see them departing from Westeros, but since the Unsullied departed, maybe the Dothraki will return to their Great Grass Sea, too. That would be the best solution. Return to their women and children and home. 

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19 hours ago, Anthony Appleyard said:

Did they all die in battle against the wights and the Night King?

 

Most did. Then after the battle Dany generated more and then once she took King's Landing she had the resources to generate more. 

 

Realism goes out the window when the show just pulls troops out of thin air. There is no way Dothraki would stay in King's Landing, with no leader they would have left the city to pillage the surrounding countryside for a long time. 

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2 hours ago, aFeastForDragons said:

Realism goes out the window when the show just pulls troops out of thin air. 

and with a wave of a magic wand turns the Insullieds into sailors...
the number of implausibilities in the episode is staggering; one every 5 minutes?....
If Season 1 had contained so many stupid shortcuts the show wouldn't even have had a Season 2.

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2 hours ago, Nowy Tends said:

and with a wave of a magic wand turns the Insullieds into sailors...
the number of implausibilities in the episode is staggering; one every 5 minutes?....
If Season 1 had contained so many stupid shortcuts the show wouldn't even have had a Season 2.

I have seen in Youtube someone wanting to scrap Season 8 and remake with a new more sensible Season 8 .

For a fan-fiction continuation, see https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=future+of+game+of+thrones

For desires to replace Season 8 with something more sensible, see

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=future+of+game+of+thrones+"season+8"+alternate

 

 

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If the storyline of the official Series 8 is changed to the extent of removing the abovementioned illogicalities:

(1) Is there any idea how many of the Dothraki that were brought to Westeros, would be alive at the end of the series?

(2) Is there any idea how many of the Dothraki that were left behind in Essos, would be alive at the end of the series?

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In the wars against the Dothraki, and in descriptions of wars between Yi Ti and the Jogos Nhai, it seems that GRRM has made no use of a tactic that was effective in the real world when used through the millennia by China against steppe nomads (Mongols, Hsiung-nu / Xiongnu, etc), namely, at a time of year when the steppe grass was dried out during the dry season, to send horseback raiding parties into the steppe to set the standing dry grass on fire over wide areas, thus (until the next wet season bring regrowth from the roots) destroying the steppe grass which is the original food base for the nomads and their livestock and riding horses.

 

 

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On 6/21/2019 at 2:38 PM, Nowy Tends said:

and with a wave of a magic wand turns the Insullieds into sailors...
the number of implausibilities in the episode is staggering; one every 5 minutes?....
If Season 1 had contained so many stupid shortcuts the show wouldn't even have had a Season 2.

 

Don't forget they were turned into capable rulers of King's Landing while Tyrion and Jon were locked up. 

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On 6/21/2019 at 2:38 PM, Nowy Tends said:

one every 5 minutes?....

Are you turning into a showpologist? :lmao:

Whaddaya mean you have to wait 5 whole minutes on average for another amazing D&D innovation (TM)?

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It has been theorised that the Dothraki and Unsullied are amoebae. Which would be pretty cool and explain a lot!

(Actually, one of the many videos about how bad season 8 was said, "What. are they amoebas?" But same-same, yes?)

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According to D&D, they all died against the Night King, then half survived to attack King's Landing, then they cheered Dany's First Order speech, then they disappeared into the aether.

I'm not the one saying this shit, the showrunners are.

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