Varysblackfyre321 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 (edited) 3 hours ago, Ran said: Reuters is reporting it was a 28-year-old woman. The shooter from what I gather appears to be a trans masc https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/nashville-christian-school-shooter-appears-former-student-police-chief-rcna76876 Apparently he had a linkdin with he/him pronouns This may motivate republicans to actually ban and/or more heavily regulate something now—that’d be hormone therapy. If a 28 year old can get turned into a mass killer because of this stuff maybe people younger(18-27) shouldn’t have it or no one should. Edited March 27 by Varysblackfyre321 Secretary of Eumenes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cock_merchant Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Nashville school shooter Audrey Hale identified as transgender and had detailed manifesto to attack Christian academy trib.al/LA57peQ https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1640474610050248709?t=iAYhMzrZF9IzcF7AxZlfnA&s=19 Secretary of Eumenes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varysblackfyre321 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 9 minutes ago, cock_merchant said: Nashville school shooter Audrey Hale identified as transgender and had detailed manifesto to attack Christian academy trib.al/LA57peQ https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1640474610050248709?t=iAYhMzrZF9IzcF7AxZlfnA&s=19 Yes he was a trans guy and I really hope you’re not using that as evidence of him being in a left-wing cult. But given you’ve defended Kanye(I like Hitler and am a nazi) West and Andrew(I love raping and sex trafficking) Tate for getting some measure of punishment for being terrible I’m inclined that is the reason. We Don’t know what the manifesto is actually about yet though. whether it details a broader political/social animosity to general Christianity or want for a political statement, personal vendetta against the school no one could honestly declare at this point, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 (edited) 18 minutes ago, cock_merchant said: Nashville school shooter Audrey Hale identified as transgender and had detailed manifesto to attack Christian academy trib.al/LA57peQ https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1640474610050248709?t=iAYhMzrZF9IzcF7AxZlfnA&s=19 Wouldn’t it be nice if the shooter didn’t have easy access to firearms regardless of how how the shooter identified? Edited March 27 by Ser Scot A Ellison Starkess, Rippounet, Prince of the North and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varysblackfyre321 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Just now, Ser Scot A Ellison said: Wouldn’t it be nice if the shooter didn’t have easy access to firearms regardless of how how the shootet identified? Yeah but that may infringe upon white cis-het people’s power fantasies. Best we could do is use this tragedy to beat up on all trans people. Secretary of Eumenes and Prince of the North 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 1 minute ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: Wouldn’t it be nice if the shooter didn’t have easy access to firearms regardless of how how the shooter identified? It's America, you communist heathen. The second amendment guarantees you the easy access to a firearm and as many schools as you can reach, before the police shoots you down. Or just before the police shoots you down, if you are black. That's freedom, god bless America, thought and prayers and so on and so forth. Just wanted to save you the trouble of watching the news and waiting for legislative action for the next couple of weeks, and decided to provide you with a condensed version of the debate. It feels kinda repetitive. But that's the gun debate in America for you. Prince of the North, Secretary of Eumenes and Ser Scot A Ellison 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cock_merchant Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 15 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: Wouldn’t it be nice if the shooter didn’t have easy access to firearms regardless of how how the shooter identified? Sure, but that's not happening in America. Secretary of Eumenes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Just to point out -- Covenant Presbyterian Church in Nashville, which founded this school, is a member of the denomination called the Presbyterian Church in America (PCA). This is a separate and mostly Southern denomination from the Presbyterian Church in the USA (PCUSA) which is the largest Presbyterian denomination. The PCA is much more conservative both theologically and socially. It does not ordain women as ministers (which the PCUSA has done since 1956) and would not have GLBTQ affirming policies, while the PCUSA does at the national level (local congregations can of course vary in their acceptance.) horangi, Prince of the North, Ran and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varysblackfyre321 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 9 minutes ago, cock_merchant said: Sure, but that's not happening in America. https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/politics/2023/03/24/house-votes-to-make-florida-a-gun-license-free-state-sends-bill-to-senate/70044935007/https://www.fox10tv.com/2023/03/24/no-prison-time-foley-man-who-illegally-sold-guns-federal-judge-rules/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varysblackfyre321 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 (edited) 23 minutes ago, A Horse Named Stranger said: Just wanted to save you the trouble of watching the news and waiting for legislative action for the next couple of weeks, and decided to provide you with a condensed version of the debate. It feels kinda repetitive. But that's the gun debate in America for you. Unfortunately there’s going to be an added layer of transphobia with this debate with all the “criminals would just find a way to get guns others way” folk declaring that the shooting demand a systematic response to far more heavily constrict and possibly ban HRT. Edited March 27 by Varysblackfyre321 Secretary of Eumenes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywin et al. Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 33 minutes ago, A Horse Named Stranger said: Just wanted to save you the trouble of watching the news and waiting for legislative action for the next couple of weeks, and decided to provide you with a condensed version of the debate. It feels kinda repetitive. But that's the gun debate in America for you. We'll ban more books, that's the solution! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varysblackfyre321 Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 (edited) On 3/23/2023 at 6:05 AM, Ser Scot A Ellison said: Thank you for that link. The point is well made, well considered, and ultimately apolitical. All laws will have unanticipated blow back. Because people get creative when new laws are enacted. Scot I think you’re interpretation is valid but I would also add it’s not just an about of poor hindsight being capitalized on by bad actors post inaction of a law—a lot of times people who understand the consequences still downplay the risks because they honestly don’t care if those risks to actualize or want those outcomes to happen. For example anecdotally I got into an argument with someone who expressed umbrage with those noting how it could needlessly endanger kids mental wellbeing and safety, crying that it’s wrong to assume that parents would have a negative reaction. During the course of dialogue they compared queer kids transitioning to mutilation, and drug abuse and asked if conversion therapy wouldn’t be effective what’d be the issue. Also objected to a trans woman reporting on the republicans anti-trans bill being referred to as a mother. It sounds hyperbolic, but the general republican efforts are to make trans people virtually illegal in public, too miserable to exist in the public sphere, or dead. Edited March 27 by Varysblackfyre321 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry of the Lake Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Varysblackfyre321 said: Scot I think you’re interpretation is valid but I would also add it’s not just an about of poor hindsight being capitalized on by bad actors post inaction of a law—a lot of times people who understand the consequences still downplay the risks because they honestly don’t care if those risks to actualize or want those outcomes to happen. For example anecdotally I got into an argument with someone who expressed umbrage with those noting how it could needlessly endanger kids mental wellbeing and safety, crying that it’s wrong to assume that parents would have a negative reaction. During the course of dialogue they compared queer kids transitioning to mutilation, and drug abuse and asked if conversion therapy wouldn’t be effective what’d be the issue. Also objected to a trans woman reporting on the republicans anti-trans bill being referred to as a mother. It sounds hyperbolic, but the general republican efforts are to make trans people virtually illegal in public, too miserable to exist in the public sphere, or dead. If you listed all the policies the Shirley Exception could apply to there are going to be some pretty clear political lines drawn. Edited March 28 by Larry of the Lake There's nothing apolitical about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makk Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 1 hour ago, Tywin et al. said: We'll ban more books, that's the solution! And Tik Tok. That's much more dangerous than any firearm!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varysblackfyre321 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 4 minutes ago, Larry of the Lake said: If you listed all the policies the Shirley Exception could apply to there are going to be some pretty clear political lines drawn. Clarify please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywin et al. Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 11 minutes ago, Makk said: And Tik Tok. That's much more dangerous than any firearm!!!! To be fair, I'm totally down with nuking Tik Tok and a lot of social media in general from orbit. Secretary of Eumenes, Ran and Prince of the North 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varysblackfyre321 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 the idea being trans people Secretary of Eumenes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martell Spy Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 4 hours ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: Wouldn’t it be nice if the shooter didn’t have easy access to firearms regardless of how how the shooter identified? I'd like to blame God for not protecting a Christian school. Also, "good guy with a gun" fails to show up. Bunch of slackers. DireWolfSpirit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varysblackfyre321 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 29 minutes ago, Martell Spy said: I'd like to blame God for not protecting a Christian school. Also, "good guy with a gun" fails to show up. Bunch of slackers. This response angers me so much to this particular situation and I do think liberals have dropped the ball on trans people. As the right’s rhetoric shifts as it prepares genocide, the left’s rhetoric just seems stuck from a few years ago not keeping up with the extremity by the opposition. queer people are going to be in the bullseye of far right chuds looking to protect the children by putting down the “degenerates. They and their Allies need to be armed and ready. Secretary of Eumenes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varysblackfyre321 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 (edited) The bad people shouldn’t be the only ones with guns. Bad people being fascists like Schaffer. Edited March 28 by Varysblackfyre321 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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