Galactus Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 It's even worse in the swedish translation Septon. He's called "Mörken Rahl". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Septon Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 That's even cornier than the Hobb translations, actually Sounds like a children's book villain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfv2 Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 Oh classic! http://www.christianfantasy.net/terrygoodkind.html Bestest line evah!! It was like being mentally raped said about W1stR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mme Erzulie Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 I actually experienced some interaction with those christian fantasy fellers a couple of years ago. I made a thread asking why they were so afraid of what a couple of books might do to their kids, if they were brought up decently and had their "good christian values", surely one reading of Harry Potter wouldn't turn them into wicked wiccans? They were quite polite and understanding, actually, even though they didn't agree with my stance. So I have some respect for them. They're not raving madmen, at least. ETA: And that review is not only accurate, it's also pretty funny. Worth a read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galactus Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 Yep Though the Goodkind fanboys where much less impressive Seriously, I love looking at different perspectives and this site is better than a lot of "Christian review" sites... EDIT: I do have a strange temptation to ask about "Perdido Street Station" though.... I tried searching but could find no thread about dear China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxom 1974 Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 His third book, Blood of the Fold (, Dangerous, Adult) is slightly better in terms of the sex and gore...except that almost nothing happens plotwise. This is astounding since the series is not finished yet and no one knows when it will be.... Poetic, yet telling... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted January 14, 2006 Author Share Posted January 14, 2006 Interesting site in that it's not preachy. It's really just listing books which devout Christian readers or parents might have issues with. It's not like a gang of God-botherers wandering around screaming "YOU WILL BURN IN HELL IF YOU READ HARRY POTTER!" to non-believers. And that Goodkind review is just hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brys Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 I've had a sudden flash of inspiration - I finally understand Goodkind's infamous "I don't write fantasy" statement. Believe it or not, he's right. Fantasy means unrestrained imagination, or reversal, or subversion - the unfamiliar, the alien. As far as I know, Goodkind has gone out of his way to avoid imagination, done his best to copy known genre conventions, has done absolutely nothing truly "fantastical" - the statement was simply his admission that he was a hack, and we all misinterpreted him. (The inspiration came from here) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted January 15, 2006 Author Share Posted January 15, 2006 That article had many an interesting point and idea right up to the end when he basically says that James Barclay is closer to the spirit of Tolkien than George R.R. Martin. Right. Still, the argument is interesting although highly unoriginal. He fails to mention Bakker or Erikson, as is usual in these arguments (although it seems to have been an older article, written when The Scar just came out, which I think puts it before Bakker's time), and Feist's minor revisionist approach to cheese epic fantasy (not having a flat-out 'evil' side or even principal bad guy in Magician) is ignored. And whilst Tad Williams' MS&T can be argued to be a Tolkien knock-off (hint: it's supposed to be), Otherland is derived from altogether different, more interesting sources. But to return to the point of this thread: that Terry Goodkind really sucks, doesn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat5150 Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 I agree that The Christian Guide to Fantasy does raise a few interesting viewpoints. And the Goodkind stuff is hilarious! But the Christian Morality meter that rates works as harmless, dangerous, etc. . . That's just a bit too much. . . Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agulla Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 I can't wait to read this review. If you're looking for High Fantasy look elsewhere. Others have recommended George Martin over Goodkind. Mr. Martin is currently in line-up for review. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brys Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 I'm mystified by one of the replies - Oh and for those who still don't want to touch Terry Goodkinds work. Please do me one small Favor and read Fahrenheight 451 first What possible connection can be made between Farenheit 451 and the Sword of Truth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted January 15, 2006 Author Share Posted January 15, 2006 Because if Terry Goodkind had his way, no doubt all leftie-leaning, commie, hippy books and rival authors works would be burned in a vast pyre whilst he danced around it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanrn Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 Because if Terry Goodkind had his way, no doubt all leftie-leaning, commie, hippy books and rival authors works would be burned in a vast pyre whilst he danced around it. True... Freakin Nazi Facist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brys Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 I think calling Goodkind a Nazi is a bit too insulting - Goodkind would never agree with those collectivist insidious people. They took away people's freedom (in Goodkind's mind, of course) by having high taxes and the state intervening in the economy, rather than letting people stand on their own two feet and help themselves. I mean, the Nazis were the National Socialist party. I'm sure he has no problems with limiting freedom to say what you want - he's an objectivist, after all - but limiting economic freedom? Doesn't sound like Goodkind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mind Elemental Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 It looks like some fans on christian-fantasy have already, ah, discovered Martin. Check out: http://p076.ezboard.com/fthesymposiumphant...picID=471.topic I reserve comment (I'm a Martin fan, what more need be said?), save to say that I agree with Zahir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zahir al Daoud Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Stranger Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 oi. Zahir, that was a trainwreck. I can't understand why you would even bother trying to explain Martin to those folks, save the desire to raise your own blood pressure deliberately. btw--what does 'Zahir" mean? my arabic dictionary is crap, so whenever I read your name I just see "X The David/X Of the David." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zahir al Daoud Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 I visit there because the board offers a thought-out, but very different perspective. Many of the folks there are quite nice, and while I disagree with many (but not all) opinions expressed, for the most part they are not stupid. "Zahir" is turkish. It is a proper name which can be translated as "blooming flower." This was my dance name when I was involved in middle eastern dance. "Al daoud" means "son of David." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Stranger Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 "Al daoud" means "son of David." ah, I see how you mean it! "Al-Da'ud" as in "of David." Bin Da'ud or ibn Da'ud would be quicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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