Kheldar Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 [quote name='Foreverlad' post='1448630' date='Jul 21 2008, 03.53']It's been a few years since I did any reading up on the matter, but I would guess that (outside of philosophics and magic) Goodkind rates at a much lower level on the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flesch-Kincaid_Readability_Test"]Flesch-Kimcaid readibility scale[/url].[/quote] A lower reading level means (in general) that more people can more easily understand what's written. There's a limitation to the system, however. It awards run-on sentences. It also doesn't work well for things that contain conversations, since they tend to use shorter sentences, which skews the results. (This post is currently at a 7.6 Grade level.) If I were to add a small conversation, though, it will change. For example: “This will lower the level.†“Really?†“Yes. It’s now a 5.7†“Wow.†“5.3†“Damn.†“5.0†“Stop it!†“4.7†“Alright already!†“4.8†"Henceforth I shall utilize numerous multisyllabic utterances of varying composition." "6.3" :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreverlad Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 [quote name='Kheldar' post='1449322' date='Jul 21 2008, 14.07']A lower reading level means (in general) that more people can more easily understand what's written. There's a limitation to the system, however. It awards run-on sentences. It also doesn't work well for things that contain conversations, since they tend to use shorter sentences, which skews the results. (This post is currently at a 7.6 Grade level.)[/quote] Thanks Khel, didn't know how run-ons work out on the scale. Yeah, I wasn't criticizing GK when I said he'd likely have a lower score. I think the SoT series having the score it does helps explain how accessible the books are to those who don't read/read much. It might also explain some reason why other authors don't attract some of those fans mentioned earlier. Of course, if it's just Goodkind's message, F.K. doesn't mean a thing at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kheldar Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 [quote name='Foreverlad' post='1449408' date='Jul 21 2008, 15.07']Thanks Khel, didn't know how run-ons work out on the scale. Yeah, I wasn't criticizing GK when I said he'd likely have a lower score. I think the SoT series having the score it does helps explain how accessible the books are to those who don't read/read much. It might also explain some reason why other authors don't attract some of those fans mentioned earlier. Of course, if it's just Goodkind's message, F.K. doesn't mean a thing at all.[/quote] It'd be interesting to mess around with books and check how certain chapters rate. Some of Richard's monologues, for example, probably come out at a grade 15 (he's a bit long-winded), while other sections of the books are at a grade 3. That actually hurts TG's attempts to get his message across, since many peoples' eyes will start to glaze over after Richard's first 3 paragraphs (out of 60 or so ;)) My son's primer starts with 3-word monosyllabic sentences and sentence fragments. ("See the dog." 0 on the F-K scale ;)) By the end, it's got full sentences with several two-syllable words. The primer probably has a 0.5 grade level, but the last lesson should be around a 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreverlad Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 [quote name='Kheldar' post='1449453' date='Jul 21 2008, 15.37']It'd be interesting to mess around with books and check how certain chapters rate. Some of Richard's monologues, for example, probably come out at a grade 15 (he's a bit long-winded), while other sections of the books are at a grade 3. That actually hurts TG's attempts to get his message across, since many peoples' eyes will start to glaze over after Richard's first 3 paragraphs (out of 60 or so ;)) My son's primer starts with 3-word monosyllabic sentences and sentence fragments. ("See the dog." 0 on the F-K scale ;)) By the end, it's got full sentences with several two-syllable words. The primer probably has a 0.5 grade level, but the last lesson should be around a 1.[/quote] Hmmm... not really sure. While the Lord Rahl does get extremely long winded, he only occasionally tosses out words like "zeitgeist", most of the time (from what I can remember) he's still pretty simple speaking without too many polysyllabic words, but the sentences can carry on. Just the same, yeah, thinking to Richard's War Wizard symbology rant at the beginning of Confessor, that could definitely throw off the score lol. the wikipedia article mentioned Green Eggs and Ham with a score of -1.3. I might actually type up a page or two from Bakker, I'm interested to see how he scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 [quote name='Foreverlad' post='1448630' date='Jul 21 2008, 03.53']You could test a hypothesis for us Wyatt. Read the series of books while the 9mm is still firmly implanted in your brain and give us your opinion.[/quote] I managed the first chapter of the second book, and my opinion is that Ayn Rand is the best selling author still alive today. And that the colors that float around, they hover in an ecliptic. Such marvelous colors. In shades of happiness and bloom. What is that gushing sound? On a serious note, I am darkly fascinated by these books. They're not even a guilty pleasure, because I don't really enjoy them. But I can't stop reading. I want to know how much worse it gets, and the depths to which it plunges the characters. I stopped empathizing with Richard the second that the VINE WAS REALLY WEIRD AND I'M SO PISSED I FORGOT MY KNIFE but I never knew from at the start how much of a thorough douchebag he ends up becoming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shining Enigma Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 [font="Book Antiqua"][size=3]It was an odd vine; and something appears to be quite wrong here, with the recent slew of truthless posts and discriminatory outrages of behalf of many of you, whom I would have thought stable enough to abstain. I am displeased; this is probably due to the fellow going by the name of Pita. [/size][/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreverlad Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 [quote name='The Shining Enigma' post='1449698' date='Jul 21 2008, 17.34'][font="Book Antiqua"][size=3] I am displeased; this is probably due to the fellow going by the name of Pita. [/size][/font][/quote] Nah, we don't blame you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolf Maid Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Who's the guy in Engima's avatar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry. Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I believe it's still Crowley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxom 1974 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 [quote name='The Wolf Maid' post='1449909' date='Jul 21 2008, 19.33']Who's the guy in Engima's avatar?[/quote] Someone who truly is sad because they're not Tairy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolf Maid Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 [quote name='Dylanfanatic' post='1449924' date='Jul 22 2008, 08.49']I believe it's still Crowley.[/quote] Hm. I thought it was Muammar al-Gaddafi. :/ [quote name='Jaxom 1974' post='1449927' date='Jul 22 2008, 08.56']Someone who truly is sad because they're not Tairy.[/quote] :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry. Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 [url="http://lh3.ggpht.com/_Lj-79GoRlOs/RggOm2AjrmI/AAAAAAAAFZs/JH6ljFUfysc/crowley_pentagram.gif.jpg"]Yep, I was right.[/url] I think Tairy needs a hat like that to cover up the liver spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolf Maid Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Thanks, DF. :) I can't stop laughing at the image of Tairy having liver spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry. Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 No problem. As for Tairy, what he needs is for someone to almost rape his skull with moisturizers. Make him into a true metrosexual. And have him pose with a pimp cane. That way he can avoid ALL comparisons with fantasy writers ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zap Rowsdower Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Someone's finally [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTIEiezVu2I"]done it[/url]. Apparently that guy has also been reading The Eye of Argon in his other videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myshkin Posted July 22, 2008 Author Share Posted July 22, 2008 That. Was. AWESOME!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
respectabull Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I concur!!!! IT WAS AMAZING! I will sleep in fear tonight. I will pray to my altruistic God that I might avoid contradictions, lest the chicken tug at my flesh, just like it tugged at Klahn's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pita Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Shining Enigma mocked me. I can't believe it. Also, that video is too serious. And it should have a picture of a chicken instead of some blurred out guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mme Erzulie Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 [quote name='Kheldar' post='1449322' date='Jul 21 2008, 20.07']A lower reading level means (in general) that more people can more easily understand what's written. There's a limitation to the system, however. It awards run-on sentences. It also doesn't work well for things that contain conversations, since they tend to use shorter sentences, which skews the results. (This post is currently at a 7.6 Grade level.) If I were to add a small conversation, though, it will change. For example: “This will lower the level.†“Really?†“Yes. It’s now a 5.7†“Wow.†“5.3†“Damn.†“5.0†“Stop it!†[b]“4.7†“Alright already!†“4.8â€[/b] "Henceforth I shall utilize numerous multisyllabic utterances of varying composition." "6.3" :D[/quote] "Alright already!" increased the reading level by 0.1? :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreverlad Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Damnit guys! I wish you all would have told me Bakker and Tairy were doing a [url="http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/4538/bookcovercopyxo5.jpg"]collaboration[/url] together. Sigh... while chickens are still a hot topic, only fair I toss [url="http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/1351/syntheseoftruthlk9.jpg"]this[/url] in too. (Mr. Bakker, please please please forgive me.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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