The Pita Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Moosicus, in the name of Myshkin (For he speaks for all communist Lemmings), I force upon thee the title of "God of Lemminghood" Now I must go to sleep, for I am tired and if I do not sleep I kill baby goats. If I do sleep I only eat them in sauce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosicus Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 [quote name='The Pita Enigma' post='1426729' date='Jul 3 2008, 18.52']Moosicus, in the name of Myshkin (For he speaks for all communist Lemmings), I force upon thee the title of "God of Lemminghood" Now I must go to sleep, for I am tired and if I do not sleep I kill baby goats. If I do sleep I only eat them in sauce.[/quote] Neat-o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxom 1974 Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 [quote name='Moosicus' post='1426698' date='Jul 3 2008, 16.19']All we can do is look to the future. A very dark, bleak future. Full of parodies.[/quote] If it's full of parodies, is it really that dark and bleak? Sounds like fun times to me! :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosicus Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Well, I like to have balance in all things. If things weren't dark and bleak then we wouldn't need parodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pita Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 I've always figured we are the balance to the Yeardites. They make life full of little fallacies, we make life full of little parodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Road To Awe Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Hi. I've read the Goodkind parodies and I'm still slogging through the old Goodkind threads, but when I read I'm the sort of person who likes to peak ahead. So I have to ask, and hope you will altruistically help me choose death, did you guys ever do some speculation as to who Richard could beat up in a crossover? Say, for example, Richard Rahl vs. [url="http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/9432/redson1xv2.jpg"]Superman[/url]. Or, a fight I've been considering for some time, combining two aspects of my misspent youth: Richard Rahl vs. [url="http://img354.imageshack.us/my.php?image=300pxdevastatormanga1ay4.jpg"]Devastator[/url]. The latter fight, if you think about it, is perhaps an even bigger grudge match than the former. While Superman may represent the ultimate in selflessness and altruism, he would be able to defeat Richard too easily. My rationale is simply that while some might suggest Superman is weak to magic, Richard Rahl's powers don't count as such because Goodkind doesn't write fantasy. He writes stories important human beings and important human themes. Ergo, Richard's powers, Zedd's powers, etc., aren't magic, but important human themes and if you think they're magic maybe you're not old enough to be reading this post about which fictional character could beat up which fictional character. Devastator, therefor, is the ultimate crossover opponent for Richard Rahl. There is perhaps no fictional character who embodies the evil, socialistic, centipede-like fighting style Richard opposes than Devastator. Devastator is the result of six individual robots (the Constructicons: Scrapper, Hook, Bonecrusher, Long Haul, Mixmaster, and Scavenger) merging together to form one giant robot that is exponentially more powerful than the individual robots alone, and possesses a collective conciousness formed from what the six individuals can agree upon. No doubt especially galling is that Devastator is such a powerful robot, no individual has ever defeated him (other robots that were also the result of the collectivist X robots merge into a bigger robot, perhaps, but never an individual). Furthermore, the individual Constructions reject individualism by all sharing the same badge, and by sharing the same green/purple/black color scheme. And their collectivist leanings are not solely represented in merging to form Devastator, but in the fact that each robot transforms into a different construction vehicle, each with additional unique powers (e.g. Mixmaster can mix up all kinds of chemicals, such as acids, in addition to cement). Together, the six Constructicons pool their unique abilities together, cooperating to build things, for no reward equal or greater than their individual contributions. In spite of the belief that they are entitled to rule their fellow robots by virtue of forming Devastator, the most powerful robot, the Constructicons obey leaders unquestioningly. When Megatron commands that the Constructicons merge to form Devastator, they hop to it! They do not rise up and live their lives. When they create, they do not create to teach people to choose Life, they do so because Megatron commands. Furthermore, some of the things they build are firmly not their own best personal outcome, as when they built a machine to give Megatron the unique powers of all Decepticons. Not only did they further increase the power of their tyrannical master, but in order to do so they had to give up their own power chips, depriving themselves of power in the process! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriele Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 [quote name='El Jax Campeador' post='1419780' date='Jun 29 2008, 04.38']Is it just me or did TG throw TOR under the bus here? [i]Putnam is a team of talented people at the very top level of publishing. To be chosen to partner with a publisher of their stature has long been my objective;[/i] And despite the ret-conning of that statement within the same letter, there just isn't a real expression of confidence or gratitude towards TOR. Continuing to refer to "my new publishers". Yeesh. Poor TOR.[/quote] I think TOR isn't unhappy to get rid of him. After all, they retain the rights to SoT that sells, and escape having bought the rights to a mainstream thriller about chicken that are no chicken which most probably will not sell half as well as SoT, and taking that risk with TG demanding an advance up to the skies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosicus Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 I could barely follow it, yet it still kinda set me on my ass. So, well done TRTA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriele Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 [quote name='Moosicus' post='1420801' date='Jun 30 2008, 11.30']While there, Roger goes to a lot of museums and learns to paint just as well as a renaissance master. His paintings plant the seeds of liberty within horrible European regimes, like France and Germany.[/quote] Not to mention he'll plant clues that will lead to understand it's all a big conspiracy of the Church against the True Religion of Objectivism. I won't be surprised if there's an albino monk hanging around as well. Or an albino chicken. And if you think you have read that before, you're not mature enough to understand TG's Great Mainstream Thriller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosicus Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 [quote name='Gabriele' post='1428157' date='Jul 5 2008, 01.07']And if you think you have read that before, you're not mature enough to understand TG's Great Mainstream Thriller.[/quote] In Tairy's own words: "It wouldn't be the first time I've been accused of borrowing from an author I've never read". Or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atreides Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 That's cause Tairy is such a godlike author that he just can't help if other people's words and ideas come to him, begging to be included in his superior work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry. Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 Speaking of religion... [url="http://www.terrygoodkind.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3582"]Tairy vs. the Christians[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pita Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 Why is it that each thread there starts as a massive circle jerk, then becomes a few derogatory comments about us, and then goes on the intended subject? This has happened with at least three threads there that I've seen. It's like TG is giving them special powers of patting each other on the... back... yes.... back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry. Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 Well, in all honesty, we do tend to rag on them a bit and it's easy to circle the wagons first ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pita Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 I meant they have this repetitive pattern, in which the first one posts a subject matter, the second to fifth one say how awesome the first one is, the sixth one says how awesome the first one is and then the rest continue talking, choosing either to jerk the first one, add another comment about us, or further the subject. It's a freaking pattern, and it makes me wonder if some of the people there are Object-o-bots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Road To Awe Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 [quote name=''Triskele'']Wow. That's quite a first post. Fresh Lemming blood![/quote] Thanks! :D [quote name='Moosicus' post='1428154' date='Jul 4 2008, 21.03']I could barely follow it, yet it still kinda set me on my ass. So, well done TRTA.[/quote] I'm sorry it wasn't more clear, but I didn't want to really embarass myself and ramble on about kid's cartoons from the '80s that I've never left behind completely. :( Cartoons that are more logical and internally consistent, even though certain characters forget that they can fly, just when the plot requires them to fall into lava (which is itself a mere twenty or thirty feet below the surface). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myshkin Posted July 5, 2008 Author Share Posted July 5, 2008 [quote name='Dylanfanatic' post='1428199' date='Jul 4 2008, 23.20']Speaking of religion... [url="http://www.terrygoodkind.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3582"]Tairy vs. the Christians[/url][/quote] What I find most interesting about this is that it confirms my suspicion that the yeardites talk about us in the Temple of the Winds (closed forum). One wonders why they have to hide behind that Windy Curtain when speaking about us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosicus Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 [quote name='Myshkin' post='1428310' date='Jul 5 2008, 07.57']What I find most interesting about this is that it confirms my suspicion that the yeardites talk about us in the Temple of the Winds (closed forum). One wonders why they have to hide behind that Windy Curtain when speaking about us.[/quote] Myshkin, I actually don't wonder why at all. That whole place should be a closed forum. One of the new Lemming Laws should be "no links to .net", cuz reading that crap always makes me just a little ill. Pita, [quote]I meant they have this repetitive pattern, in which the first one posts a subject matter, the second to fifth one say how awesome the first one is, the sixth one says how awesome the first one is and then the rest continue talking, choosing either to jerk the first one, add another comment about us, or further the subject. It's a freaking pattern, and it makes me wonder if some of the people there are Object-o-bots.[/quote] It should look familiar since its the same pattern for Dick and co. Dick says/does something amazing, then Zedd has to marvel at the amazingness of it to Nicci, she in turn tells Cara how amazing it is, and everybody strokes each other over how amazing Dick is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthmail Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 Hahaha....you said Dick is amazing. Anyways. Reading that little bit only goes a step further to show that debating Goodkind with Khel is an absolute waste of time. He is misguided, at the least. He says we don't understand that one can disagree with an author and still enjoy his books. That's ignoring the point of like ten thousand pages of threads. It's not that we can't read anything with ideas inside that we don't agree with. It's that most authors don't hold up their characters to represent the noblest ideals of good and then have them do things that are clearly grey, if not black, in nature. GRRM does not espouse that we should all love Jaime, he makes no real mention one way or another...he simply shows us who the character is, and why he has become the way he has. He does not say...Jaime represents truth and honesty, and then goes and kills unarmed protestors. He shows us the character, and allows us to choose for ourselves. Goodkind simply sits around constructing weak arguments that invovle his own ideals and other ideals that are so far in the wrong that the only logical conclusion is to choose his. And honestly, reading their discussions is like sitting in an echo chamber. They don't choose to live for themselves, they choose conformity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosicus Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 [quote name='Arthmail' post='1428617' date='Jul 5 2008, 15.49']And honestly, reading their discussions is like sitting in an echo chamber. They don't choose to live for themselves, they choose conformity.[/quote] It's always something to read responses when someone disagrees. And I don't mean when Mysh, Pita, or I go over there for kicks. The whole cult of them tend to jump all over anyone who doesn't walk the line. One of us. One of us. One of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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