Arthmail Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Just a guess, but I doubt Obama believes Christ is the resurrected son of God, born of a virgin.Like most people with a few extra brain cells to rub together. In any case, getting a black president who was an athiest in office would be harder than bending the world in half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord O' Bones Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I'm sorry: This is politics or religion? I missed something?I'm afraid you may have. This is America, Jack. The two are one and the same here, one scary way or the other false way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All-for-Joffrey Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Let's move away from religion and talk about the French.http://factcheck.org/2012/01/gingrich-makes-a-french-connection/As for his French-speaking skills, Romney honed those as a Mormon missionary in France for a few years in the 1960s. Gingrich’s ad highlights a clip of Romney greeting French volunteers to the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City. We’ll have to leave it to voters to decide whether being able to chat in français is a good thing or a bad thing. Gingrich (as well as has no problem reaching out to U.S. voters in Spanish.In this (hilarious) attack ad, at the end, Gingrich (or rather, his Super PAC that clearly has no affiliation or coordination with him) states that he speaks French, in a very negative light. Is there really a substantial enough group of American conservatives that are so xenophobic that this is something that really adversely affects Romney? Yes, this is a legitimate question.Actually, come to think of it, since I did read an op-ed in The Washington Post a few weeks ago called "Can I really vote for a Mormon?," it's not a serious question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swift Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Don't think it's xenophobia. I think they're trying to hit the "French are pussies" card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 It's the definition of a Christian, the foundation of the entire religion.I think that the foundation of the Christian religion is the idea that the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus is in some way closely bound up with the salvation of human beings.I don't think the belief in either the Virgin Birth or a bodily resurrection is necessary to affirming that.Although on a personal note, as someone who does personally believe in the resurrection (I don't care one way or the other about the Virgin Birth), I am really insulted by those on this thread who immediately have to make nasty comments about how that makes me an "idiot." Whether or not Obama or anyone else believes in either the resurrection or the Virgin Birth has nothing to do with their IQ. I don't insult the intelligence of atheists and I would really like it if they didn't insult mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awesome possum Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 It's cool, man. I like zombies too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueMetis Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 As do I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Greguh Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I don't insult the intelligence of atheists and I would really like it if they didn't insult mine.Not to poop on the spirit of brotherhood but what exactly is there to insult about atheism?"I don't believe in that for which there is no evidence." Ooh. Ridicule away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 tzanth, (and Ormond),Who does?I do. If people choose to underestimate my intelligence based upon my religious beliefs so much the better for me.Ser Greguh,I take it that means you need constant reaffirmations of people's love for you? Otherwise, how do you have evidence of their continued love?AP,I'm pleased you think i'm an idiot. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTinyKittens Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Can we please just go ahead and stop the religion talk? And the associated under-handed insults?(null) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Greguh Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I take it that means you need constant reaffirmations of people's love for you? Otherwise, how do you have evidence of their continued love?Of course not. What a bizarre comparison. I don't need to be able to see the stars during the day to know that they're still there, either. That's not how evidence works. The difference between us is that I need to see them (or, more formally, be presented with compelling evidence for them) once.Look, it's one thing to complain about people making fun of your beliefs, and quite another to imply that the only thing that keeps you from ridiculing the other side is your own good nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Ser Greguh,People's feelings change. Sometimes rapidly (the Stars by contrast are fairly constant in comparison to our lifespans) given that fact how can you know feelings haven't changed without constant evidence? Or, perhaps you have faith in your loved ones love? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awesome possum Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 AP,I'm pleased you think i'm an idiot. :)I apologize if you feel insulted, Scot. It was maybe a little too blunt with poor word choice. I do not apologize for the opinion, however. I feel it no more or less than some of your brethren may feel I'll be spending an eternity in agonizing torture for said opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Given the current thread drift (well, maybe not given its USA politics), there was an interesting discussion today on the BBC where the entire show of "The Big Question" was devoted to "is there evidence of god". http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b019pmcx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 AP,I'm not insulted. You are free to view religious belief as you see fit. Just recognize many of us are not idiots. ;)Ants,Interesting, but irrelevant to my belief. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bastard of Bolton Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Not sure where to post this so I'll do so in the three threads that seem the most relevant.http://birthofanewearth.blogspot.com/2011/08/obama-appoints-monsantos-vice-president.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bastard of Bolton Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Not sure where to post this so I'll do so in the three threads that seem the most relevant.http://birthofanewearth.blogspot.com/2011/08/obama-appoints-monsantos-vice-president.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthmail Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Stephen Colbert, who has given his Superpac to John Stewart, had an awesome interview with George Stephonopolous recently.And John Stewarts Superpac attack ad is also awesome. It uses Mitt Romney's words, that corporations are people, to then point out that Mitt Romney is a serial killer for having murdered corporations. I'm not sure if it is on youtube yet, but its awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shryke Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Let's move away from religion and talk about the French.http://factcheck.org...nch-connection/In this (hilarious) attack ad, at the end, Gingrich (or rather, his Super PAC that clearly has no affiliation or coordination with him) states that he speaks French, in a very negative light. Is there really a substantial enough group of American conservatives that are so xenophobic that this is something that really adversely affects Romney? Yes, this is a legitimate question.Actually, come to think of it, since I did read an op-ed in The Washington Post a few weeks ago called "Can I really vote for a Mormon?," it's not a serious question.The funniest part of thea ad is that it's all relevant stuff (for a GOP primary anyway) before that.And then at the end, it's suddenly like "Oh yeah, and he speaks French. What an asshole!" and it's like "What??? Where did that come from?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightsnake Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9cn0M_AFWg&feature=player_embeddedSorry if this is old. Mitt Romney's response to a medical marijuana patience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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