Winter's Lady Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Hodor is Daenerys came from the future :bowdown: Now it all makes sense!Heh I like this one best I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckwheat Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Helping Shadow just a little (choosing an easy one):R+L=Eldric DayneWell, we all know R and L eloped to the ToJ, where they had sex and Lyanna got pregnant. She gave birth to this little boy in the presence of Wylla, Ashara Dayne's maid who was there because she brought some letter about family business from Ashara to Arthur. After they all realised that Lyanna will not survive the sepsis after giving birth, they had problem as to where to put the baby. The Daynes were Targ supporters till the bitter end (see Arthur) and Arthur thought it honourable to save the youngest of them. So, he gave the child to Wylla to bring him to Starfall to be raised in safety. Meanwhile, Arthur's sister-in-law, Lady of Starfall already had a few miscarriages and Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dacie Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Mance Rayder and Bloodraven are the same person. They both left the Night's Watch and live beyond the Wall. Sounds pretty obvious to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter's Knight Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Ah thanks, didn't think of them - I sat there for ages trying to puzzle it out, but it was really quite obvious :lol:Late reply is late-Jasie is JamieCersei. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. Baratheon Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 1) Everything that has happened in the series has been masterminded by Rickon and Tommen so that they can become Kings of the North and South respectively. Hodor and Lady Whiskers are in on it, since Rickon and Tommen plan to make them their respective hands.2) Lord Wyman Manderly is so fat because he ate the real Samwell Tarly. The one with the Night's Watch is a faceless man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teal'c Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Mance Rayder is Rhaegar Targaryen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungGriff the Conqueror Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Bleeding star in the PtwP prophecy is Ashara Dayne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasha Steelsong Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Varys is really a woman.The crackpot thought came to me from the show actually but something Varys said combined with what we know was done to him (all of his male organs removed not just the stem as it were) had me wondering whether the whole eunich thing was a cover for the fact that he never had a penis to begin with. Personally I'm not sold on it myself but you said any crackpot theory you could find proof for so i lay down the above challenge. FYI did not check if someone else had this crackpot theory.ETA: I see this theory has popped up already for a specific woman so I'll say that not only is he a woman but she's a Blackfyre and since I'm going all out - Illyrio's wife doing it all for their son to take the throne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pourthedamhypocras Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Sansa Wargs into a Dragon and falls in love with her husband :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Cersei I Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 The dragons are a figment of Dany's deranged mind. :kiss:This is completely true. Here's why--A full-fledged attack of true insanity (complete with hallucinations, delusions of grandeur, a ridiculous self-concept, etc.) is known to be brought on bya. A genetic disposition to insanityb. Exposure to a stressful, traumatic, or otherwise emotionally damaging situationAs of the end of AGOT (during which the increasingly nutty Danerys apparently believes-- and manages to convince more passive, less discerning readers-- that she actually "gets dragons" by throwing a bunch of fossilized eggs into a fire) Danerys qualifies for both of these criteria.Thus, AGOT, which, on the surface, looks like a young girls triumph over adversity, is actually the dramatic cataloguing of a young woman's descent into utter, dragon seeing madness.Dany's first signals of madness occur when she decides to have her own brother killed by her barbaric husband. Clearly, she is both violent and deluded, under the impression that her half mad brother should somehow be immune to fire, since "dragons don't burn." All of these features-- the hair trigger temper, the illusions of supernatural strength, and the tendency towards bizarre mass punishments involving fire will all be characteristics which characterize the poor manic young dragon lady from this point on.Later, after losing her husband and her child, Dany clearly proceeds to utterly lose her mind-- and her contact with reality-- as well. Feeling suppressed guilt over the death of her brother (whom Danerys always loathed and disrespected for being only half mad, rather than totally mad, unlike her own dragon seeing, city sacking self) Dany leads her husband and unborn child into a dangerous, even suicidal mission which, unsurprisingly, results in death for her husband. She then foolishly goes to the woman whose city she sacked for help, indicating both her insane delusions of grandeur, and secret, unarticulated desire to be rid of all her family members so she alone, the last dragon, can be triumphant.Thus, when Mirri kills Danys unborn child (simply doing what, in fact, Danerys herself secretly desired to do), Dany lashes out irrationally and declares that Mirri must be burned for taking her predictable and, honestly, not unjust revenge. By burning the healer woman, Danerys clearly wants to “burn” the part of herself—the part that is keeping her connected to the outside world and sanity. Thus, when she ignites the fire that swallows Mirri Maz Durr whole, Dany loses her last, tenuous grip on sanity.This, not coincidentally, is the moment “the dragons” appear. Dany’s deluded minds manufacture a situation where, not only do her dead, fossilized eggs give birth to living, fire breathing fantasy beings, she herself is a figure of great, inhuman strength—untouchable, even by fire.The reactions of those around Dany are not hard to contemplate. When she sees them bowing to her they are, in fact, actually simply cowering to her in deep fear of her clear bat shit insanity. Her massively deluded self image, hair trigger temper, tendency towards violence, and extreme cruelty all inspire fear and loathing and obedience, first in the Dorthraki, later in the Mereenes. Thus, when Dany believes that people are obeying in fear of her dragons, they are truly just frightened of her overarching insanity(As for Jorah Mormont and Selmy, they are clearly figments of Danerys overheated and increasingly diseased imagination.)Thus, rather than the fantastical, magical fantasy Mary Sue Danerys appears to be, she is actually A Very Special Warning against the very real danger of congenital insanity and its consequences in lands based on hereditary monarchies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Stark's Ghost Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Starks are related to the Others, because there is an old saying that iron can keep the Others out. So far we have not seen it being truly effective against the White Walkers, but we know that the graves of Starks must always be adorned with an iron sword to keep peace. So Eddard has some sort of relation in his blood and therefore a capability.mind = blown :bowdown: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EgoistMusketeer Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 :bowdown: so is Dany actually just sitting in a room in the citadel being examined by Maesters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverin Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Dany actually won't have three ride, treason, fire to lit.Since the men in the House of Undying wanted to mess with her, they gave the wrong numbers, and wrong prophecies. This way when she thinks no more, betraying etc etc, it turns out that the prophecy was fake to mess with her heads, and she fails.Proof: ASoIaF is supposed to be a grounbreaking fantasy which breaks clishes and 3 is the most boring clishe number you could ever meet in fantasy novels. That is why dany belives that the prophecy is right by the way, since it started with three, and that is a magical, special number so it already makes everything more beivable. If it would have started with 11 she would have just think it is a lie, since in prophecies the numbers has to be special (like 3, or 7 for example). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. Baratheon Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Mance Rayder is Rhaegar Targaryen.It turns out that Melisandre's red gem is not actually hers, but Rhaegar already had it. When Robert apparently killed Rhaegar, he was wearing ruby encrusted armor. These rubies were actually used to disguise Rhaegar, escaping when the rubies scattered under the water by disguising as water. Rhaegar had these gems because he was given one by a red priest/priestess who knew that Rhaegar's son (Jon Snow) would be Azor Ahai reborn. Knowing via the red priest's prophecy that Jon would one day be Lord Commander, Rhaegar then went over the Wall so he could help his son achieve his destiny. Rhaegar was then attacked by the ranging Mance, who he killed, tearing his cloak in the process. Rhaegar mended the cloak himself, and used the ruby to assume Mance's identity, and then made up the story about the wildling woman. Rhaegar decided that he could help Jon more by uniting the Wildlings, so they could eventually help the Watch fight the Others, so he left the Watch and became King-Beyond-the-Wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Cersei I Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Dany actually won't have three ride, treason, fire to lit.Since the men in the House of Undying wanted to mess with her, they gave the wrong numbers, and wrong prophecies. This way when she thinks no more, betraying etc etc, it turns out that the prophecy was fake to mess with her heads, and she fails.Proof: ASoIaF is supposed to be a grounbreaking fantasy which breaks clishes and 3 is the most boring clishe number you could ever meet in fantasy novels. That is why dany belives that the prophecy is right by the way, since it started with three, and that is a magical, special number so it already makes everything more beivable. If it would have started with 11 she would have just think it is a lie, since in prophecies the numbers has to be special (like 3, or 7 for example).Ah, I agree, but I also think Danerys obsession with the number three is yet more evidence of her tendency towards obsessive compulsive disorder and overarching insanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck norris 42 Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 My crazy theory that is impossible to prove is"There is a character in the series that is NOT actually Targaryens that were switched at birth"I almost feel sorry for everyone else who attempted to write something crazy I, your claims seems totally plausable in comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Raven Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Lyanna won the tourney at Harrenhal and Rhaegar was the Queen of Love and Beauty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ServantOnIce Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 It is known Dany's Dohtraki Handmaids are really Maesters of the citadel in disguise . . it is known . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christina Ceriddwynn Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Dany isn't a Targ....in fact she's not even real. Jorah has been hallucinating this entire time and made it all up.Quinten never went over there....he's still in Dorne...was all a moonwine dream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howling Mad Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Mance Rayder is Rhaegar Targaryen. Mance/Rhaeger had a fight with Elia over his affair with Lyanna and went north to find himself. He hired a mummer to portray false Rhaeger until he returned. Unfortunately false Rhaeger got slammed by Robert at the battle of the Trident. Of course, the first clue to this being false Rhaeger is the loss of false Rhaegar's rubies, everyone knows that Mance/Rhaegar preferred sapphires because they brought out the color of his eyes. Mance/Rhaeger was extremely distressed to hear that false Rhaeger, Elia, and Lyanna were dead which led Mance/Rhaeger to dye his hair, adopt the name Mance, and enlist in the Night's Watch. Later Mance met Dalla which caused him to finally "find himself" and get motivated to once again take on the duties of a King. Also it is known that Mance and Rhaeger both love music and play wonderfully so they must be the same guy :D . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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