Crown Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 He's a fake. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orys'Fury Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sand Snake No. 9 Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Why do all y'all think Blackfyres are not Targaryens? They are by both blood and law: both of Daemon Blackfyre's parents were Targs (Aegon IV and Daena Targaryen, his first cousin) and he, along with the rest of Aegon's bastards, was legitimized. They have the Targaryen looks (more than the Targ heirs with mothers from Dorne) and Targaryen prophetic dreams. The blood of the dragon is there, for what it's worth.ETA: Blackfyre is the name of the Targaryen kings' Valyrian steel sword, that Aegon IV gave to Daemon, and which Daemon used as evidence of his father's intention to make him king. I'll bet you Aegon pulls Blackfyre out of Ilyrio's trunk, and if he does, I reckon the question of his parentage will be resolved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvothe the Arcane Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 My heart says yes, my brain says no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dacie Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Why do all y'all think Blackfyres are not Targaryens? They are by both blood and law: both of Daemon Blackfyre's parents were Targs (Aegon IV and Daena Targaryen, his first cousin) and he, along with the rest of Aegon's bastards, was legitimized. They have the Targaryen looks (more than the Targ heirs with mothers from Dorne) and Targaryen prophetic dreams. The blood of the dragon is there, for what it's worth.ETA: Blackfyre is the name of the Targaryen kings' Valyrian steel sword, that Aegon IV gave to Daemon, and which Daemon used as evidence of his father's intention to make him king. I'll bet you Aegon pulls Blackfyre out of Ilyrio's trunk, and if he does, I reckon the question of his parentage will be resolved.I agree, Blackfyres are just as much Targ as the true borns. And based on this, Aegon does have a claim.I answered no in that I don't believe he's the true born son of Rhaegar Targaryen and Elia Martell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Summerqueen Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Faker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alric Stark Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 I will hope for yes, but am thinking it is a No.So it is a vote for no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athanasius Pernath Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 He's not Rhaegar sonbut he's even more NOT a Blackfyre :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uffington Horse Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Though sometimes I waffle on this, I'm voting no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnionAhaiReborn Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Why do all y'all think Blackfyres are not Targaryens? They are by both blood and law: both of Daemon Blackfyre's parents were Targs (Aegon IV and Daena Targaryen, his first cousin) and he, along with the rest of Aegon's bastards, was legitimized. They have the Targaryen looks (more than the Targ heirs with mothers from Dorne) and Targaryen prophetic dreams. The blood of the dragon is there, for what it's worth.ETA: Blackfyre is the name of the Targaryen kings' Valyrian steel sword, that Aegon IV gave to Daemon, and which Daemon used as evidence of his father's intention to make him king. I'll bet you Aegon pulls Blackfyre out of Ilyrio's trunk, and if he does, I reckon the question of his parentage will be resolved.My feeling is that most people are not responding to the question of whether Blackfyres have a legitimate claim but to the question of whether he is legitimately the son of Rhaegar and Elia.The OP question asks if he is heir to the throne, but I'm pretty sure everyone is responding to it as a question of is he the 'real' Aegon or not. At least, that's what I had in mind with my answer. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danm_999 Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 No, he's not legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wight Walker Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 His name may be, and he may think he's the real deal, but I don't think he's the child of rhaegar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faint Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Not a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Rivers Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 He's not Rhaegar sonbut he's even more NOT a Blackfyre :)So how does he get that Targ/ Blackfyre appearance? Glamour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assjfjgjsgjljljglgjfjsduar Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 So how does he get that Targ/ Blackfyre appearance? Glamour?A lot of people of Valyrian descent in Essos have the Targ look. It's really only "unique" in Westeros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyanna Stark Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 So how does he get that Targ/ Blackfyre appearance? Glamour?You missed the Tyrion chapters where Jorah Mormont is "entertaining" a prostitute with a very Targaryen look and Tyrion thinks that there are lot of descendants in Old Volantis who have the Valyrian silver hair etc?In fact, Tyrion is more or less lampshading how Aegon is fake here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Istakhr Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushido Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athanasius Pernath Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 So how does he get that Targ/ Blackfyre appearance? Glamour?lot of people have just said what i think. there's a full, even if little, universe of Valyrian-like folks in the World of Ice and Fire. Houses with Valyrian ancestors (like the Velarion), a number of people with those somatic in the Free City (especially Lys. it seems that Serra, the lover of Illyrio Mopatis, had blue eyes and golden hair streaked with silver).Dayne children, with the right 'genetic cross', could come out as Valyrian :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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