R'hllor's Bastard Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 "You may have bad dreams for a time," warned the kindly man. "Her father beat her so often and so brutally that she was never truly free of pain or fear until she came to us." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FittleLinger Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Immediately after applying the mask.."Hands closed around her throat, hard as stone, choking her. Her own hands shot up to claw at the arms of her attacker, but there was no one there. A terribe sense of fear filled her, and she heard a noise, a hideous crunching noise, accompanied by blinding pain. A face floated in front of her, fat, bearded, brutal, his mouth twisted with rage. She heard the priest say, "Breathe, child. Breathe out the fear. Shake off the shadows. He is dead. She is dead. Her pain is gone. Breathe."Thanks so much! IS this the only example? I have the feeling that the memories are actually the victim's last moments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Drunkard Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Barring the AFFC/ADWD weirdness, has GRRM ever shown us a chapter from X at a certain time, and then later on shown us a chapter from Y that occurs before the time X occured?Sorry if it wasn't clear, just trying to figure out the Pink Letter, because the Theon chapter from The Winds of Winter would have to occur a very significant time prior to the sending of the Pink Letter if Ramsay actually sent it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis Eats No Peaches Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 ` This had been bothering me for a while, even though it's not important. However, when Jon escapes the wildlings and he gets to Mole's Town he exchanges his horse for another one. How does this work? Is there a fee for the exchange or is it good hospitality? What if the horse exchanged is worse than the one that was taken?The Nights Watch owns that land so they can essentially take what they want, within reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtnLion Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Barring the AFFC/ADWD weirdness, has GRRM ever shown us a chapter from X at a certain time, and then later on shown us a chapter from Y that occurs before the time X occured?Sorry if it wasn't clear, just trying to figure out the Pink Letter, because the Theon chapter from The Winds of Winter would have to occur a very significant time prior to the sending of the Pink Letter if Ramsay actually sent it.Read A Taste of Winter including the "(The chronology, as usual, is tricky. This chapter will be found eventually at the beginning of WINDS, but as you will be able to tell from context, it actually takes place before some of the chapters at the end of DANCE)." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Wolf Smith Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Barring the AFFC/ADWD weirdness, has GRRM ever shown us a chapter from X at a certain time, and then later on shown us a chapter from Y that occurs before the time X occured?Are you asking if GRRM shows us chapters out of order? All the time. If you are asking if we see a chapter late in 1 book, and then an earlier chapter early in the next, I know it happened in aFFC/aDwD and will happen in aDwD/WoW. I believe it has happened in at least one other time, but don't know it off the top of my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncle Kraken Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Do we have any evidence of the dothraki actually taking (ok, breaching in and ravaging) a city? Except the futile attempt against the Unsullied at Astapor? I mean how can a dothraki siege work, except for starving the occupants to death?In the HBO series, King Bob explains how the Dothraki would pillage the small folk forcing the Lords to leave their castles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R'hllor's Bastard Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Is there proof that Robert Baratheon knew how to read? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Eater Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Is there proof that Robert Baratheon knew how to read?He supposedly read a letter from containing info about Dany's wedding. He was a high lord, and with Maester Cressen seeing to Robert's education, so Robert was literate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R'hllor's Bastard Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 He supposedly read a letter from containing info about Dany's wedding. He was a high lord, and with Maester Cressen seeing to Robert's education, so Robert was literate.I knew he would have a maester becaise he was noble but that doesnt mean Robert learned or showed any interest in learning. But if he read the letter i suppose thats proof enough he did learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxhound Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Do we have any evidence of the dothraki actually taking (ok, breaching in and ravaging) a city? Except the futile attempt against the Unsullied at Astapor? I mean how can a dothraki siege work, except for starving the occupants to death?The story about their attack at Qohor (not Astapor) is the only evidence. They were planning on assaulting and sacking it before the Unsullied appeared. We have this statement from Dany's bloodriders that implies they don't (and have even rationalized it): “When cowards hide behind great walls, it is they who are defeated, Khaleesi,” Ko Jhogo said.Her other bloodriders concurred. “Blood of my blood,” said Rakharo, “when cowards hide and burn the food and fodder, great khals must seek for braver foes. This is known.”“It is known,” Jhiqui agreed, as she poured. And Jorah says the same.“Mind you, Princess, if the lords of the Seven Kingdoms have the wit the gods gave a goose, it will never come to that. The riders have no taste for siegecraft. I doubt they could take even the weakest castle in the Seven Kingdoms, but if Robert Baratheon were fool enough to give them battle..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Wolf Smith Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Do we have any evidence of the dothraki actually taking (ok, breaching in and ravaging) a city? Except the futile attempt against the Unsullied at Astapor? I mean how can a dothraki siege work, except for starving the occupants to death?I know a lot of people think that they can't do siege work. I think they must be able, or at the very least they at one point they were able to siege a city( which is sometimes easier, and other times harder then a castle). Vaes Dothrak has many things that sound like they were from a city or castle not the least would be the bronze horses. I also think that the free Cities would not pay the Dothraki if they thought they could wait safe inside their cities walls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Aemon I Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Why people keep saying that Jaime Lannister could've held titles in a Game of Thrones? He can be Warden of the EastHe can be Hand of the KingWhat is up with that? Isn't he a member of the Kingsguard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Drunkard Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Why people keep saying that Jaime Lannister could've held titles in a Game of Thrones?He can be Warden of the EastHe can be Hand of the KingWhat is up with that? Isn't he a member of the Kingsguard?His role as a member of the KG is pretty iffy. Jaime wasn't big on the rules, Robert didn't care enough to enforce them, and Tywin was always trying to weasel Jaime out of his KG position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Aemon I Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 His role as a member of the KG is pretty iffy. Jaime wasn't big on the rules, Robert didn't care enough to enforce them, and Tywin was always trying to weasel Jaime out of his KG position.Why didn't even Ned object to that.. He said to Robert that he would inherit west from his father and a man should never control half of the realm.. Even he agreed that Jaime would inherit west.. Not even an argument about it with Robert.. Ridiculous... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FittleLinger Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Why didn't even Ned object to that.. He said to Robert that he would inherit west from his father and a man should never control half of the realm.. Even he agreed that Jaime would inherit west.. Not even an argument about it with Robert.. Ridiculous...Why would Ned care whether exactly Jaime or someone else along the line would inherit the west? On the contrary, he will look like the douchy nerd that reminds the teacher to give homework if he's constantly nagging, "But Bob, he's Kingsguard, he cant!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fallen Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 ` Eh, seems like when it comes to Jaime everyone knows the rules won't be upheld so why bother.BTW, thanks for the responses to my earlier question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booknerd2 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Two questions:Can someone direct me to a thread that lists Robert's known children, or speculation of any others?Also, can someone brief me on the protocol for the new app? I got it, I love it, I was interested in some of the choice wording and info contained in there, and I would think that we can not use it on the boards yet because the app is too new and it might be considered spoiler? I am sure not everyone has it that would like to acquire it yet. Especially because I think it is not available on all tech stuff yet.Thanks, Just don't want to blunder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckwheat Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Two questions:Can someone direct me to a thread that lists Robert's known children, or speculation of any others?I do not know about a thread, but Robert's known children are:Mya StoneBella in Stoney SeptGendryEdric StormBarratwins in Lannisport Cersei had killed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmholt Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 I do not know about a thread, but Robert's known children are:Mya StoneBella in Stoney SeptGendryEdric StormBarratwins in Lannisport Cersei had killedVarys knows of one other and there ought to be 8 more from maegi's predictions. Which IMHO is a way to give GRRM some extra people if he needs them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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