[SPOILERS] Breaking Bad - Final Season - Iron, Lithium, Sodium.

[ninjastark]

So Gale died while making tea....is Lydia gonna suffer the same fate?I thought Walt already knew where the WS hang out.Thought that was where they met to arrange the rat patrol.

[Littlefingers In The Air]

What episode are they on in the marathon?

[Morpheus]

2.10 Over

The one after 4 Days Out when they have the party to celebrate Walt's remission and he and Hank almost come to blows over Walt giving Jr too much tequila.

[Martell Spy]

What episode are they on in the marathon?

Not sure what the ep is titled, but it's season 2. Jesse went to the house of the meth heads last episode. This one Skylar is getting her old accounting job back and Tortuga is introduced.

[The Monkey]

2.10 Over

The one after 4 Days Out when they have the party to celebrate Walt's remission and he and Hank almost come to blows over Walt giving Jr too much tequila.

4 Days Out is the one where they're stuck out in the desert, right? Damn, that was such a great episode.

[Morpheus]

Yeah.

The episode 'Over' is the one where Walt says "Stay out of my territory!"

[cdawnb]

Phoenix, possibly one of the saddest episodes of Breaking Bad, is on now.

This rewatch is a lot harder than I thought it would be. It's worse actually knowing where this is all headed.

[Mya Stone]

Oi, watching Flynn vehemently defend Walt to Skyler is really hard to watch this time around knowing what I know now. :(

[Jabronius Maximus]

I think someone mentioned how the first bit of Breaking Bad is like Weeds, and that is right on the money. It felt more satirical than anything, and at the time I really felt like it was putting the 'comedy' in dark comedy. And I don't know if it's just me, but seasons 1-3 so far seem every bit as good as the later seasons. It's probably because we now know what happens, but I'm surprised to see this show's quality has remained quite consistent throughout (even though review scores have steadily risen).

[7V3N]

I think someone mentioned how the first bit of Breaking Bad is like Weeds, and that is right on the money. It felt more satirical than anything, and at the time I really felt like it was putting the 'comedy' in dark comedy. And I don't know if it's just me, but seasons 1-3 so far seem every bit as good as the later seasons. It's probably because we now know what happens, but this show's quality has remained quite consistent throughout (even though review scores have steadily risen).

I've always said Breaking Bad went from dramatic comedy to comedic drama. I love it all.

[Martell Spy]

Yeah, some things have a different bite to them this time around. I just where Jr. is interviewed and tells them how his father is decent and his hero.

[Wise Fool]

Yeah.

The episode 'Over' is the one where Walt says "Stay out of my territory!"

Also this:

Jesse: Ah... you weren't supposed to wake up!

Jane: ...ever?

:frown5:

[Littlefingers In The Air]

Watching "Phoenix" now. Walt's rant to Saul about having so much money that he had to weigh it on the bathroom scale while simultaneously not being able to use it for his family and having them think he's on the edge of bankruptcy...heartbreaking.

[ninjastark]

I hope people will realise that Jane was not all sweet and innocent.Does Walt get blamed for Andrea's death?

[Littlefingers In The Air]

Walt has a fair amount of fault in the Andrea murder but I'd say it's minimal compared to Todd.

[Morpheus]

I hope people will realise that Jane was not all sweet and innocent.Does Walt get blamed for Andrea's death?

Yes, he does deserve some blame, he dragged her into this, he used her as he used so many other people and put her on the psycho's radar. Obviously, Todd killed her, but Walter's actions endagered her life and it doesn't matter if that was his intention or not.

He isn't directly responsible as he is for Jane, but I couldn't fault Jesse for blowing Walt's head off and citing Andrea as one of the reasons.

[TrackerNeil]

He isn't as directly responsible as he is for Jane, but I couldn't fault Jesse for blowing Walt's head off and citing Andrea as one of the reasons.

At this point, I wouldn't fault anyone for blowing Walt's head off...but only after Walt's had a chance to deal with Jack and Todd and the entire Nazi crew. Those guys need some head-blowing-off as well.

[Bridgeburners]

Sigh... Walt is 100% responsible for Jane's death.

I used a skydiving analogy before, and I'll use it again:

Skydiving, like doing heroin, is an activity with a mortality rate that you accept when you do the jump. So imagine it was Jane's turn to jump, and Walter handed her her knapsack. Only he accidentally handed her a supplies knapsack instead of a parachute knapsack. He realizes this after about 5 seconds, and has a good twenty seconds to rectify this mistake before she jumps. But he remembers that she threatened to go to the police over him, so he decides to let her jump with the knapsack.

The only reason people would blame Walter for the above situation, but not for the heroin situation, is because there's negative social connotations with heroin. People would say "oh, she chose to do this disgusting life risking habit, she signed her own death warrant". The thing is, the skydiving is perfectly analogous but without the connotations. Jane took the right precaution of lying on her side, which she explicitly mentions earlier in the show - she even says the risk of choking on your own vomit. Walter is the one who shook her on her back! That was the killing blow; even if it was an accident, he had a good twenty seconds to rectify it (just like he did with the knapsack he accidentally handed her on the plane).

[Mark Antony]

Watching "Fly" on AMC right now, Fuck I forgot how much I loved this episode.

[TrackerNeil]

Jane took the right precaution of lying on her side, which she explicitly mentions earlier in the show - she even says the risk of choking on your own vomit. Walter is the one who shook her on her back! That was the killing blow; even if it was an accident, he had a good twenty seconds to rectify it (just like he did with the knapsack he accidentally handed her on the plane).

Harry the Heir and I discussed this not long ago, and he opined that he thought Walt could be held criminally liable for Jane's death for this very reason. He's certainly morally responisible, in my book, although I notice that he never cops to this even in his last moment with Jesse. If he wanted to hurt Jesse, that was the time to say, "I killed Jane", but I get the feeling there's a part of him that doesn't want to own up to it. Walt still tells himself he's a good guy, and a good guy wouldn't do that kind of thing; ergo, he did not do it.